From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LP05R-0001px-1c for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:47:05 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LP05Q-0001pl-Lf for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:47:04 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44860 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LP05Q-0001pi-GQ for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:47:04 -0500 Received: from caffeine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.134.17]:33031) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LP05P-00012T-Ft for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:47:03 -0500 Received: from caffeine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by caffeine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14CBA73EFD for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:47:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:47:03 -0500 Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [6324] Return -errno on write failure (Gleb Natapov) Message-ID: <20090119194702.GT29175@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> References: <18804.26133.917740.497581@mariner.uk.xensource.com> <7523661163-BeMail@laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7523661163-BeMail@laptop> From: lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Lennart Sorensen) Reply-To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 07:52:03PM +0100, Fran??ois Revol wrote: > There is also the fact that at least theorically one has to pay for it, > unlike RFCs. It's interesting to see free software people insisting on > Microsoft or others for free of charge specs on protocols yet abide by > paid standards. Open source people want to be able to get specs. Having to pay for the paper it is printed on isn't that bad. Not being able to get it at all is bad. I think Epson has traditionally charged about $20 or so for programing specs for their inkjet printers, although I could have that figure wrong (I have never had to order one since the gutenprint people do such a great job already),and they might even be giving free copies to some groups. Nothing wrong with that. Open source is NOT about not costing money, it is about being able to get sources and specs and do stuff with them. -- Len Sorensen