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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3] Stop VM on ENOSPC error.
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:35:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090120093540.GA27675@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49759870.3050305@redhat.com>

On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 10:25:04AM +0100, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> Ian Jackson wrote:
> > Anthony Liguori writes ("Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3] Stop VM on ENOSPC error."):
> >> Ian Jackson wrote:
> >>> Once again, this feature should be optional.
> >> Why?
> > 
> > Well, three reasons, one general and theoretical, and two practical
> > and rather Xen-specific.
> > 
> > The theoretical reason is that a guest is in a better postion to deal
> > with the situation because it knows its access patterns.  Often the
> > response to a failing write in a mission-critical system will be some
> > kind a fallback behaviour, which is likely to work.  Stopping the VM
> > unconditionally is not something that the guest can cope with.
> 
> The fundamental issue is that you can't signal ENOSPC to the guest via
> IDE protocol because that is an error condition which simply can't
> happen on real hardware.  You can only signal EIO, which is something
> very different, and the OS likely goes into "Oops, disk broken" mode.
> Which probably isn't what you want here ...
> 
Windows using IDE retries DMA 3 times and then moves to PIO mode. And it
stays in PIO mode even after reboot. The only way to return to DMA mode
again is to reinstall the driver.

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-20  9:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-18 11:05 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3] Stop VM on ENOSPC error Gleb Natapov
2009-01-19 11:56 ` Ian Jackson
2009-01-19 12:16   ` Gleb Natapov
2009-01-19 16:15   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-01-19 17:22     ` Ian Jackson
2009-01-19 18:38       ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-19 18:41       ` Gleb Natapov
2009-01-20  9:25       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-01-20  9:35         ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2009-01-20 10:44           ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-01-20 11:05             ` Gleb Natapov
2009-01-20 11:35       ` Vincent Hanquez

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