From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LklBJ-0007au-Jt for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:19:05 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LklBB-0007ZC-OL for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:19:04 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57526 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LklBB-0007Z9-Iy for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:18:57 -0400 Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47]:52463) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LklBB-0001b6-7b for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:18:57 -0400 Received: from aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090320201847.NXEI2989.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:18:47 +0000 Received: from miranda.arrow ([213.107.21.171]) by aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20090320201847.NJNQ13254.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@miranda.arrow> for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:18:47 +0000 Received: from sdb by miranda.arrow with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LklAy-0000F7-Le for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:18:44 +0000 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:18:44 +0000 From: Stuart Brady Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Random thought about qemu-user and Windows Message-ID: <20090320201844.GA863@miranda.arrow> References: <200903172308.47070.paul@codesourcery.com> <49C099E4.9080503@redhat.com> <200903181015.24614.paul@codesourcery.com> <20090319235015.GB12725@shareable.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090319235015.GB12725@shareable.org> Reply-To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:50:15PM +0000, Jamie Lokier wrote: > Hmm... I wonder how much would be required to emulate just the > Windows system calls (used by normal applications)? I.e. the same way > qemu-user emulates the Linux and BSD system calls used by normal apps. > > WINE does this, of course, but WINE is much bigger than that - it > replaces all the Windows userspace libraries. That's much bigger than > just kernel behaviour. I wonder how big the part needed just for > Windows system calls would be. Hmm, at some point in the future, I suppose it's possible that there could be a demand for something like FX!32 (which let you run i386 apps on NT for DEC Alpha)... x86 seems to be here to stay, though... For most users, I suppose qemu+wine would (in theory) be want they want, although perhaps it'd be possible to run some code (e.g. wineserver?) directly on the host CPU, without any translation. -- Stuart Brady