From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Lmylk-0003ll-0M for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:13:52 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Lmylf-0003gh-5k for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:13:51 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50773 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Lmylf-0003gU-26 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:13:47 -0400 Received: from bsdimp.com ([199.45.160.85]:52920 helo=harmony.bsdimp.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Lmyle-0003Rq-Ji for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:13:46 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:11:09 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20090326.171109.-1597331999.imp@bsdimp.com> Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Remove -s flag in Makefile From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20090326221122.GA25747@kos.to> References: <20090326210909.GA19263@kos.to> <20090326.151638.188888765.imp@bsdimp.com> <20090326221122.GA25747@kos.to> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: riku.voipio@iki.fi Cc: markmc@redhat.com, avi@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca In message: <20090326221122.GA25747@kos.to> Riku Voipio writes: : On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 03:16:38PM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: : > I guess this boils down to "It's how its been done since the early : > 1980's at least" but I do know times change. : : Maybe you have heard about the new kids called GNU? Nah. They are just a fad that will fade away soon enough :) : http://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/standards.html#Standard-Targets : : I don't think qemu is following GNU guidelines, but these are : pretty much the makefile targets *most* users expect these days. These are just the coding standards for FSF projects. But that does have a lot of influence on other users in the worlds... : > : Unconditional stripping is bad, mmkay? : : > Of course. That's why most systems have a flag called STRIP that's : > passed to install so that users can turn it on or off, but it defaults : > to on. : : Personally, this solution would work for me. Not that my random : sampling from the debian archive found any application that uses : STRIP in that way - when STRIP was defined, it is usually "strip". : Including qemu btw... Yea, don't much work with debians. Warner