From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Lx4bJ-000068-Vn for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:28:50 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Lx4bF-00005d-Ti for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:28:49 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59283 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Lx4bF-00005a-O0 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:28:45 -0400 Received: from caffeine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.134.17]:55865) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Lx4bF-00083c-De for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:28:45 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:28:44 -0400 Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [7234] Use a more natural order Message-ID: <20090423192844.GJ3795@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> References: <20090423185308.GH3795@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> <20090423.131250.756905613.imp@bsdimp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090423.131250.756905613.imp@bsdimp.com> From: lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Lennart Sorensen) List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: "M. Warner Losh" Cc: blauwirbel@gmail.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 01:12:50PM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <20090423185308.GH3795@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> > lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Lennart Sorensen) writes: > : On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 06:29:47PM +0000, Blue Swirl wrote: > : > Revision: 7234 > : > http://svn.sv.gnu.org/viewvc/?view=rev&root=qemu&revision=7234 > : > Author: blueswir1 > : > Date: 2009-04-23 18:29:47 +0000 (Thu, 23 Apr 2009) > : > Log Message: > : > ----------- > : > Use a more natural order > : > : It may be more natural, but it is also less safe. > : > : After all > : > : if (0 = x) { > : > : fails compile, while > : > : if (x = 0) { > : > : compiles silently even when you didn't mean that. > > This style is evil and must die. I don't know any nice way to put > it. It encourages sloppiness. Also, it breaks down when you add > inequality: > > if (x < 1) > > becomes > > if (1 >= x) No it doesn't. It becomes: if (1 > x) Why would it be anything else? > which is also error prone. > > The compiler will warn about your example, but won't warn if I > transcribe things wrongly as > > if (1 < x) Nothing wrong with that. That's perfectly valid, if you want to check that x is greater than 1. Putting constants first means that you can't accidentally use assignment when you meant equality. You can't fix all the stupidies possible in C, but you can at least try to avoid some of them when possible. -- Len Sorensen