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From: Glauber Costa <glommer@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: aliguori@us.ibm.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] remove pieces of source code
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 08:32:30 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090529113230.GG30777@poweredge.glommer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A1F77C0.9050407@codemonkey.ws>

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 12:50:56AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Glauber Costa wrote:
> > Have you ever seen a girl so beautiful that you, geeky,
> > think: "I'll never stand a chance"?
> >
> > But sometimes, you decide to make your move anyway. There's
> > always the chance that in that very day she'll be specially
> > in good mood, and you'll get what you want.
> >
> > With the exception of the fact that qemu is not a girl,
> > that's more or less what I'm trying to do here: Hopefully,
> > nobody will notice what I'm trying to do, and will commmit it.
> > Later, when realizing, it will be too late. Victory will be mine.
> >
> > Or maybe people will even agree. For that, I'll try briefly
> > to arguee my point, without disclosing to much, avoiding
> > jeopardizing the strategy I explained above:
> >
> >   This patch removes a piece of code that is unmaintaned,
> >   that does not receive an update for years,
> >   that get bug reports on the list that nobody fixes, because
> >   nobody really understands,
> >   that places some artificial constraints on other subsystems
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Glauber Costa <glommer@redhat.com
> 
> Let's actually build a proper case instead of closing our eyes and
> hitting enter.  Here are the downsides of kqemu I know of:
Okay... you do realize I was kidding, and I never really expected this to
happen at first, right? ;-)

> 
>  o Since it's enabled by default, it forces the default build to support
> < 4GB of guest memory
>  o It attempts to use /dev/shm for guest memory which means a special
> option is needed in the default build to use more than 1/2 of host ram size
>  o It touches an awful lot of places in QEMU
>  o Some of the BIOS changes are particularly nasty and will prevent
> having a unified BIOS between QEMU and Bochs
>  o The kernel bits will never go upstream for Linux
>  o No one actively supports kqemu in upstream QEMU
> 
> That said, here are the arguments for keeping kqemu
> 
>  o Even though it's unmaintained, it seems to work for people
But traffic in the mailing list indicates that it is less and less the case.
And more importantly: As it bitrots, nobody fixes it. so...

>  o There is no alternative for non-Linux users and folks with non-VT/SVM
> hardware

Sure, but I don't think kqemu is such an alternative. ;-)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-05-29 11:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-28 23:03 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] remove pieces of source code Glauber Costa
2009-05-29  5:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-29  9:08   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2009-05-29  9:12     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-29  9:35       ` Stefan Weil
2009-06-02 20:09       ` Stuart Brady
2009-06-02 20:29         ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-29 10:00     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-05-29 10:20       ` Jan Kiszka
2009-05-29 11:35     ` Glauber Costa
2009-05-30 18:04     ` François Revol
2009-05-31  9:13       ` Jan Kiszka
2009-05-31 14:53     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-05-31 15:43       ` Jan Kiszka
2009-05-29 11:32   ` Glauber Costa [this message]
2009-05-29 11:42     ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2009-05-29 15:43     ` [Qemu-devel] " Consul
2009-05-29 18:49       ` Glauber Costa
2009-05-30 10:26         ` Andreas Färber
2009-05-31  9:15           ` Jan Kiszka
2009-05-31 13:08             ` Andreas Färber
2009-05-31 13:40               ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-31 16:20                 ` M. Warner Losh
2009-05-31 15:10               ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-06 10:17                 ` Andreas Färber

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