From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@hp.com>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 6/7] virtio-net: Add new RX filter controls
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:50:31 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090609235031.GA15362@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A2E82E8.6050209@siemens.com>
Jan Kiszka wrote:
> > The pcap interface is close to that for ease of configurability, but a
> > bridge would behave better, especially with multiple VMs, and maybe
> > perform better.
>
> Pcap on Linux suffers from the limitation that injected packets are not
> visible to the host, thus guest<->host communication doesn't work.
Ew.
> The same is true for PF_PACKET (or does libpcap actually use that
> internally?).
Yes it does.
> Haven't analyzed the reasons in details yet, but I bet
> it's not solvable in user space.
I think that's probably right, and good solutions would be:
- A new option to the kernel bridging to attach a bridge
to an existing net interface in a way which allows the interface's IP
configuration to keep working
- An alternate pcap mode which makes packets visible to the host.
- An "auto-bridging" tap device mode, where it's told which network
interface to bridge to, with an invisible bridge.
Bridging would be better than pcap because it can more easily take
advantage of multiple MAC address support in the network interface
(like macvlan), to filter properly, although I don't know if the
existing Linux bridge code does that. And it more closely resembles
what you'd do with physical machines instead of VMs, which is plug
them into a switch.
-- Jamie
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-09 23:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-05 20:46 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/7] virtio-net: Filter cleanup/improvements Alex Williamson
2009-06-05 20:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/7] virtio-net: Add version_id 7 placeholder for vnet header support Alex Williamson
2009-06-05 20:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/7] virtio-net: Use a byte to store RX mode flags Alex Williamson
2009-06-05 20:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/7] virtio-net: reorganize receive_filter() Alex Williamson
2009-06-05 20:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/7] virtio-net: Fix MAC filter overflow handling Alex Williamson
2009-06-05 20:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/7] virtio-net: MAC filter optimization Alex Williamson
2009-06-05 20:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/7] virtio-net: Add new RX filter controls Alex Williamson
2009-06-06 20:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-08 19:01 ` Alex Williamson
2009-06-08 19:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-08 19:29 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-08 21:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-09 9:57 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-09 15:00 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-09 15:42 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2009-06-09 23:50 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2009-06-10 8:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 8:58 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-10 9:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 9:13 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-06-10 9:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 9:22 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-06-10 9:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-08 20:18 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2009-06-05 20:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/7] virtio-net: Increase filter and control limits Alex Williamson
2009-06-06 20:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-08 18:49 ` Alex Williamson
2009-06-09 19:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/7] virtio-net: Filter cleanup/improvements Mark McLoughlin
2009-06-09 21:08 ` Alex Williamson
2009-06-10 6:51 ` Rusty Russell
2009-06-10 20:43 ` Alex Williamson
2009-06-12 17:07 ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-06-12 19:19 ` Alex Williamson
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