From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MEQwJ-0001ZY-Ub for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:46:16 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MEQwF-0001Nf-1N for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:46:15 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52692 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MEQwE-0001Mu-HV for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:46:10 -0400 Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:61314) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MEQwE-0002Cl-7R for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:46:10 -0400 Received: from mail.codesourcery.com ([65.74.133.4]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MEQwD-00007M-3s for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:46:09 -0400 From: Paul Brook Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/11] qemu: MSI-X support functions Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:46:03 +0100 References: <200906101708.27815.paul@codesourcery.com> <20090610162644.GJ28601@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <20090610162644.GJ28601@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200906101746.06740.paul@codesourcery.com> List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" Cc: Carsten Otte , kvm@vger.kernel.org, Rusty Russell , qemu-devel@nongnu.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, Blue Swirl , Christian Borntraeger , Avi Kivity > > If you can't create an identical machine from scratch then I don't > > consider snapshot/migration to be a useful feature. i.e. as soon as you > > shutdown and restart the guest it is liable to break anyway. > > Why is liable to break? A VM booted on an old version of qemu and migrated to a new version will behave differently to a the same VM booted on a new version of qemu. I hope I don't need to explain why this is bad. As previously discussed, any guest visible changes are liable to break a guest OS, particularly guests like Windows which deliberately break when run on "different" hardware. Personally I don't particularly care, but if we support live migration we also need to support "cold" migration - i.e. shutdown and restart. >So once you load and image with MSIX capability off, >it will stay off across guest restarts. I'm assuming guest restart includes restarting qemu. Paul