From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: ehabkost@redhat.com, jan.kiszka@siemens.com, dlaor@redhat.com,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Vincent Hanquez <tab@snarc.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/11] QMP: Introduce specification file
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:09:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090624160927.GC14121@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <19010.11102.28799.518165@mariner.uk.xensource.com>
Ian Jackson wrote:
> I think dbus would be a good choice, but even XML-RPC (which, frankly,
> is flabby, overcomplex, slow, hard to read, etc.), JSON (which doesn't
> have an IDL that can even do checking), and ASN.1/DER/BER (which is a
> complexity nightmare) would be an improvement over no automatic
> parsing machinery.
I strongly dislike D-Bus, having been forced to use it to manage Linux
Bluetooth connections. (The old way with a nice traditional
unix-style executable command to control them was far nicer and
actually worked).
D-Bus is impossible to use properly from shell with the available
shell client (some value types aren't supported), and you have to read
application source code to figure out what calls to use, if the
applications RPCs aren't well documented (which they aren't for Linux
Bluetooth). There's no useful introspection.
D-Bus seems to be ok for asynchronous notifications, such as what's
used to update icons on a desktop in response to background events.
But it's not at all transactional so you often have temporary
display inconsistencies in a GUI using it.
-- Jamie
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2009-06-23 4:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/11] QMP: Introduce specification file Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 8:55 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 9:57 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 10:08 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 13:22 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 13:31 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 13:06 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 13:10 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 17:12 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 13:27 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 17:15 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 13:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 13:30 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 13:34 ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-06-23 13:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 15:01 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 15:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 16:02 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 17:20 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] " Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-23 15:56 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 15:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 16:04 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 16:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 16:15 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 18:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 18:47 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 19:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 19:44 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 19:52 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 20:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 20:13 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 22:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 22:02 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-23 22:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-24 1:01 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-24 11:55 ` James
2009-06-24 12:09 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-24 12:32 ` James
2009-06-24 12:54 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-24 14:31 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-24 12:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-24 13:02 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-24 13:21 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-24 13:09 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-24 16:22 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-24 16:25 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-24 18:52 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-24 17:39 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-24 18:23 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-24 18:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-24 18:42 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-24 18:55 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-24 18:56 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-24 13:34 ` Ian Jackson
2009-06-24 16:09 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2009-06-24 14:03 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-25 19:30 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-24 14:06 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-24 14:41 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-24 14:56 ` Chris Webb
2009-06-24 19:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-24 15:57 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-24 16:22 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-24 16:42 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-24 19:05 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-24 19:24 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-24 21:13 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-24 21:29 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-24 21:47 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-25 13:07 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-25 14:55 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-25 15:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-25 15:20 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-25 17:04 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-25 18:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-25 19:03 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-26 9:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-26 9:10 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-26 9:16 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-26 9:44 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-26 11:41 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-25 18:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-25 18:31 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-25 19:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-26 9:12 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-26 13:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-26 15:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-26 17:36 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-26 19:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-26 20:25 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-28 13:16 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-28 17:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-28 17:36 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-29 9:44 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-29 9:50 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-29 10:09 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-27 7:03 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-28 12:11 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-28 13:13 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-28 17:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-28 17:34 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-29 0:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-29 6:04 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-29 9:48 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-29 20:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-30 5:37 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-30 13:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-30 13:51 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-30 13:52 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-30 13:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-30 14:03 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-30 16:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-30 18:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-01 8:07 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-29 14:41 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-29 14:56 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-28 17:38 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-26 11:36 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-24 16:00 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-23 16:20 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 17:59 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-23 15:41 ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-23 4:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/11] QMP: Introduce MONITOR_USE_CONTROL flag Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 4:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/11] QMP: Introduce protocol print functions Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 13:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 13:53 ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-06-23 4:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/11] QMP: Make monitor_handle_command() QMP aware Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 13:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 17:25 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 4:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/11] QMP: Introduce control mode chardev handling Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 4:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/11] QMP: Introduce asynchronous events infrastructure Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 8:59 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 13:31 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 10:08 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 10:11 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 14:46 ` Paul Brook
2009-06-23 10:32 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 11:23 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 13:36 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 13:48 ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-06-23 13:51 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 16:34 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 16:47 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 4:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/11] QMP: Enable simple commands Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 4:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/11] QMP: Port balloon command Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 13:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 16:36 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 16:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 16:59 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 18:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-25 11:27 ` Dor Laor
2009-06-25 19:11 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-26 9:21 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-26 9:42 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-26 11:15 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-27 15:58 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-28 15:52 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-28 16:30 ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-28 17:23 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-28 17:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-28 17:51 ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-28 18:36 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-28 22:11 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-25 19:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 4:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/11] QMP: Port 'info blockstats' command Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 9:43 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 9:59 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 10:09 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 10:10 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 14:01 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 4:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/11] QMP: Introduce basic events Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 9:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 17:07 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 10:06 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 4:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/11] QMP: Command-line flag to enable control mode Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 9:03 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 10:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 10:11 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 10:17 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 10:54 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 11:28 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 11:44 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 11:51 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 11:53 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 12:01 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 12:39 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 12:46 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 12:48 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 11:54 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 11:48 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 12:25 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 14:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 10:19 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 11:13 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 13:59 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 14:06 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 17:27 ` Luiz Capitulino
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