From: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
ehabkost@redhat.com, jan.kiszka@siemens.com, dlaor@redhat.com,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 08/11] QMP: Port balloon command
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 12:58:33 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090627125833.22d3cc9f@doriath> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090626094224.GE28206@redhat.com>
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:42:24 +0100
"Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:21:01PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> > On 06/25/2009 10:11 PM, Luiz Capitulino wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, having a library was suggested by Amit some months ago. The
> > >problem is that it has various issues wrt maintainability.
> > >
> > > For example, libvirt is able to run two instances of different
> > >versions of qemu at the same time. How to handle this if you
> > >update libmonitor.so?
> > >
>
> The sane way is to *NOT* break ABI of libmonitor.so, and not change
> the wire protocol in a non backwards compatible way. This is entirely
> doable, it just the maintainer of libmonitor/qemu to decide that ABI
> stability is important. So if you find an existing API / command
> needs to gain an extra argument, you don't change the existing API,
> you add a new one. Or ideally design the API upfront so that it
> can be extended without breaking back compatability.
[ Looks like my (evil) twin brother has taken the keyboard while I
was away and has started saying libmonitor.so non-sense. ]
I think I have mixed up problems here, but anyway, working on a C library
seems a step back to me. I believe that defining the API for it will
generate more discussion than the protocol, will probably be harder
to write and to document too.
In a general way the protocol idea is very simple: we just have to
make monitor's output parsable. As Anthony has put it, the patchset
is not far from a mergeable state. I can't even image how long it would
take to have the C API in the same shape.
That said, I think the protocol discussion went way too far. Of
course that I want to do the right thing and we should always be
concerned with the future, but the priority here is not to design/choose
the next-ultra-super-hiper-mathematically-proven-and-loved protocol.
So, IMHO both solutions (QMP and JSON) solves the problem and I
would work on either one. I just would like that Anthony and Avi
get in agreement, because the project will fail if it becomes
one more difference between qemu and qemu-kvm.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-27 15:58 UTC|newest]
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2009-06-23 4:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/11] QMP: Introduce specification file Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 8:55 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 9:57 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 10:08 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 13:22 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 13:31 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 13:06 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 13:10 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 17:12 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 13:27 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 17:15 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 13:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 13:30 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 13:34 ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-06-23 13:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 15:01 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 15:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 16:02 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 17:20 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] " Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-23 15:56 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 15:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 16:04 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 16:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 16:15 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 18:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 18:47 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 19:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 19:44 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 19:52 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 20:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 20:13 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 22:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 22:02 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-23 22:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-24 1:01 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-24 11:55 ` James
2009-06-24 12:09 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-24 12:32 ` James
2009-06-24 12:54 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-24 14:31 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-24 12:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-24 13:02 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-24 13:21 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-24 13:09 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-24 16:22 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-24 16:25 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-24 18:52 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-24 17:39 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-24 18:23 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-24 18:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-24 18:42 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-24 18:55 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-24 18:56 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-24 13:34 ` Ian Jackson
2009-06-24 16:09 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-24 14:03 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-25 19:30 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-24 14:06 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-24 14:41 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-24 14:56 ` Chris Webb
2009-06-24 19:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-24 15:57 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-24 16:22 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-24 16:42 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-24 19:05 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-24 19:24 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-24 21:13 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-24 21:29 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-24 21:47 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-25 13:07 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-25 14:55 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-25 15:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-25 15:20 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-25 17:04 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-25 18:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-25 19:03 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-26 9:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-26 9:10 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-26 9:16 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-26 9:44 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-26 11:41 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-25 18:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-25 18:31 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-25 19:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-26 9:12 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-26 13:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-26 15:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-26 17:36 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-26 19:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-26 20:25 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-28 13:16 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-28 17:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-28 17:36 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-29 9:44 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-29 9:50 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-29 10:09 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-27 7:03 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-28 12:11 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-28 13:13 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-28 17:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-28 17:34 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-29 0:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-29 6:04 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-29 9:48 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-29 20:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-30 5:37 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-30 13:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-30 13:51 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-30 13:52 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-30 13:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-30 14:03 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-30 16:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-30 18:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-01 8:07 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-29 14:41 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-29 14:56 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-28 17:38 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-26 11:36 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-24 16:00 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-23 16:20 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 17:59 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-23 15:41 ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-23 4:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/11] QMP: Introduce MONITOR_USE_CONTROL flag Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 4:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/11] QMP: Introduce protocol print functions Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 13:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 13:53 ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-06-23 4:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/11] QMP: Make monitor_handle_command() QMP aware Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 13:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 17:25 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 4:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/11] QMP: Introduce control mode chardev handling Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 4:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/11] QMP: Introduce asynchronous events infrastructure Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 8:59 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 13:31 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 10:08 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 10:11 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 14:46 ` Paul Brook
2009-06-23 10:32 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 11:23 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 13:36 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 13:48 ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-06-23 13:51 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 16:34 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 16:47 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 4:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/11] QMP: Enable simple commands Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 4:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/11] QMP: Port balloon command Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 13:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 16:36 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 16:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 16:59 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 18:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-25 11:27 ` Dor Laor
2009-06-25 19:11 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-26 9:21 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-26 9:42 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-26 11:15 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-27 15:58 ` Luiz Capitulino [this message]
2009-06-28 15:52 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-28 16:30 ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-28 17:23 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-28 17:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-28 17:51 ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-28 18:36 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-28 22:11 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-25 19:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 4:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/11] QMP: Port 'info blockstats' command Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 9:43 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 9:59 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 10:09 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 10:10 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 14:01 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 4:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/11] QMP: Introduce basic events Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 9:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 17:07 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 10:06 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 4:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/11] QMP: Command-line flag to enable control mode Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 9:03 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 10:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 10:11 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 10:17 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 10:54 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 11:28 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 11:44 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 11:51 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 11:53 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 12:01 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 12:39 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 12:46 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 12:48 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 11:54 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 11:48 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 12:25 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 14:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 10:19 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 11:13 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 13:59 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 14:06 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 17:27 ` Luiz Capitulino
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