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From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] Tunnel character device data over VNC (v1)
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:52:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090701185255.GD24144@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A4BAF30.8020609@codemonkey.ws>

On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 01:47:12PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> >On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 01:36:23PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> >  
> >>Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> >>    
> >>>The following two patches make it possible to tunnel character devices
> >>>over VNC, using a new VNC extension. This is motivated by the existing
> >>>QEMU support for tunnelling audio streams over VNC, and the code follows
> >>>a very similar design.  The key requirement here is that it should not
> >>>be neccessary to specifically configure each character device to make
> >>>it available via VNC. The admin should be able to configure the char
> >>>devices with all current available backends (file, pty, null, tcp, udp,
> >>>unix, etc), and regardless of this config be able to snoop on data from
> >>>any active VNC client on demand.
> >>> 
> >>>      
> >>Shouldn't it just be the character devices put on vc's?
> >>    
> >
> >The 'vc' concept is a stateful one, requiring the user to switch betweeen
> >channels statically and is opaque to VNC clients - all they see is a
> >framebuffer with no idea that QEMU has this magic sequence to change
> >what the framebuffer displays, nor what vc's are available.
> 
> I understand what you're suggesting, but I think the right way to handle 
> this use-case is to allow character devices to be redirected after 
> initial open making them truly dynamic.

The 'vc' reference was puzzelling to me there, but I think you're
basically suggesting the same thing as Gerd is ? To fully de-couple
the device specification vs backend configuration

Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-01 18:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-01 16:21 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] Tunnel character device data over VNC (v1) Daniel P. Berrange
2009-07-01 16:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] APIs to capture character device data Daniel P. Berrange
2009-07-01 16:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] VNC char device data stream tunnelling Daniel P. Berrange
2009-07-01 18:44   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-01 16:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] Tunnel character device data over VNC (v1) Daniel P. Berrange
2009-07-01 16:42 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-07-01 16:50   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-07-01 17:30     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-07-01 18:50       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-07-01 19:27         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-07-01 18:51       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-01 19:41         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-07-01 19:59           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-01 20:56             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-07-01 21:32               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-01 22:46                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-07-02  2:30               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-01 21:07             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-07-01 18:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-01 18:44   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-07-01 18:47     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-01 18:52       ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2009-07-01 19:11         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-01 19:27           ` Daniel P. Berrange

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