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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Lennart Sorensen <lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca>
Cc: Anthony Lannuzel <anthony.lannuzel@hynesim.org>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] bidirectional data exchange between guest and host without network
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:01:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090711000116.GF30322@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090708133059.GQ15751@csclub.uwaterloo.ca>

Lennart Sorensen wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 12:03:20PM +0200, Anthony Lannuzel wrote:
> > I tried using a fat partition with the "sync" mount option, to avoid
> > caching on both sides (still using virtio on /dev/sda8 on the host and
> > /dev/vda on the guest).
> 
> sync only affects write caching, it does nothing for read caching,
> which is where your real problem is.
> 
> > The host now reads data written by the guest but the guest does not see
> > the host data.
> > 
> > Is there anything related to virtio that prevents this from working, as I
> > think the mount option provides me with a filesystem that fulfils the
> > conditions you just told me ?
> 
> Just the fact any sane OS does read caching is what makes it not work.
> Filesystems are NOT going to do this for you.  You can not share
> filesystems like that unless explicitly designed for it.

Many guest OSes have O_DIRECT or equivalent.  That bypasses read and
write caching, and can be used for direct access to the underlying
block device.

You can share data over a block device that way, by _not_ using a
filesystem, only using your own protocol on the block filesystem.

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-11  0:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-07  8:45 [Qemu-devel] bidirectional data exchange between guest and host without network Anthony Lannuzel
2009-07-07  9:02 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-07 13:11   ` Anthony Lannuzel
2009-07-07 14:12     ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-07-07 14:39       ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-08 10:03         ` Anthony Lannuzel
2009-07-08 13:31           ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-07-11  0:01             ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2009-07-08 13:34           ` Paul Brook
2009-07-08 13:57           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-09  7:51             ` Anthony Lannuzel
2009-07-11  0:04               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-12  9:02                 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-07-13 22:38                   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-14  5:54                     ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-07-16  7:46     ` Amit Shah

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