From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: virtio-serial: An interface for host-guest communication
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:48:27 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090729074827.GJ30449@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090729074418.GA24925@amit-x200.redhat.com>
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 01:14:18PM +0530, Amit Shah wrote:
> On (Tue) Jul 28 2009 [08:42:32], Anthony Liguori wrote:
> > Amit Shah wrote:
> >> Right; use virtio just as the transport and all the interesting
> >> activity happens in userspaces. That was the basis with which I started.
> >> I can imagine dbus doing the copy/paste, lock screen, etc. actions.
> >>
> >> However for libguestfs, dbus isn't an option and they already have some
> >> predefined agents for each port. So libguestfs is an example for a
> >> multi-port usecase for virtio-serial.
> >>
> >
> > Or don't use dbus and use something that libguestfs is able to embed.
> > The fact that libguestfs doesn't want dbus in the guest is not an
> > argument for using a higher level kernel interface especially one that
> > doesn't meet the requirements of the interface.
>
> But why do we want to limit the device to only one port? It's not too
> complex supporting additional ones.
>
> As I see it qemu and the kernel should provide the basic abstraction for
> the userspace to go do its job. Why create unnecessary barriers?
>
I agree. If userspace wants it may use only one channel and demultiplex
messages by itself, but we shouldn't force it to. Also one of the
requirements for virtio-serial is to have connect disconnect
notifications. It is not possible with demultiplexing in the userspace.
--
Gleb.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-07-29 7:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-07-27 18:04 [Qemu-devel] virtio-serial: An interface for host-guest communication Amit Shah
2009-07-27 18:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/1] virtio_serial: A char device for simple guest <-> host communication Amit Shah
2009-07-27 18:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] virtio-serial: virtio device for simple host <-> guest communication Amit Shah
2009-07-27 18:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] vnc: add a is_vnc_active() helper Amit Shah
2009-07-27 18:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] virtio-serial: vnc: support for sending / receiving guest clipboard Amit Shah
2009-08-05 0:03 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 1/1] virtio_serial: A char device for simple guest <-> host communication Rusty Russell
2009-08-05 5:12 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-05 9:58 ` Amit Shah
2009-07-27 20:22 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: virtio-serial: An interface for host-guest communication Anthony Liguori
2009-07-27 20:32 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-07-27 20:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-27 20:46 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-27 23:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-28 10:36 ` Amit Shah
[not found] ` <4A6F0048.1000103@codemonkey.ws>
2009-07-29 7:44 ` Amit Shah
2009-07-29 7:48 ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2009-08-05 18:00 ` Jamie Lokier
[not found] ` <20090728140029.GA16067@amd.home.annexia.org>
2009-07-28 14:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-28 14:55 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-07-28 15:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-03 19:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-05 17:57 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-05 18:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-06 10:38 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-06 13:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-06 13:41 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-06 13:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-06 14:04 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-06 17:37 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-07 6:38 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-07 14:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-10 6:55 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-10 9:47 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-08-10 13:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-10 14:02 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-08-10 14:20 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-10 15:34 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-08-10 16:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-10 17:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-12 18:27 ` Paul Brook
2009-08-14 8:15 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-14 13:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-14 13:41 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-20 13:42 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-20 14:25 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-08-20 14:38 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-20 14:42 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-14 13:49 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-08-14 16:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-20 7:31 ` Rusty Russell
2009-08-20 7:44 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-08-20 7:55 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-20 17:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-25 12:43 ` Rusty Russell
2009-08-25 13:00 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-08-10 14:20 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-10 23:09 ` Rusty Russell
2009-08-11 0:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-10 14:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-10 15:57 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-08-06 10:35 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-05 18:32 ` Richard W.M. Jones
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