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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Cc: stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	kraxel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add JPEG encoding to VNC server
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:27:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090731152750.GA31833@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1249024897-11100-1-git-send-email-agraf@suse.de>

Alexander Graf wrote:
> While this might sound like it renders the whole implementation useless, it
> does make sense to implement it nevertheless. I have some ideas to implement
> progressive encodings for video.
> 
> So when we'd detect that one region is updated a lot in a short
> about of time with content that zlib can't really handle well, we'd
> just send a really low quality JPEG first and then send the update
> after a timer if the region wasn't updated within that timeframe.

Detecting video regions may also be possible if virtual video overlay
hardware can be offered.  It would probably require a special guest
driver.  virtio-video :-) Then again the trend, if you believe in the
<video> element demos in web browsers, is likely towards OpenGL-driven
video frame rendering because it's more versatile.

Sending JPEG quality first and a lossless update after is an
interesting idea, even for non-video.  On a slow link, seeing boxes
and buttons appear quickly might be quicker to click through a GUI, as
you can see where to click even if the text and decorations are a bit
fuzzy for a moment.  Especially if you already know what to expect.

Is it possible to use any of the lossless or "near-lossless" JPEG
encodings, and would that be any more efficient than VNC's usual
lossless encoding?

-- Jamie

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-07-31 15:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-31  7:21 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add JPEG encoding to VNC server Alexander Graf
2009-07-31 12:52 ` David Turner
2009-07-31 13:03   ` Alexander Graf
2009-07-31 14:11 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-07-31 14:50   ` Alexander Graf
2009-07-31 15:27 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2009-07-31 15:35   ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori

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