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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] RFC: Add new block driver for the VDI format
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:20:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090803152021.GB15109@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A76E002.2060301@redhat.com>

On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 04:02:58PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> Theoretically anything you can do with threads you can do with async 
> operations but experience has proven that async is much more difficult.  
> Consider the last qcow2 bug.

> Locking _is_ an easier problem than figuring out the state machine.  I 
> can't prove this but there's numerous anecdotal evidence on the subject.

Having worked with state machines and threads I agree.  Unless you have
very good runtime support (which I think is almost impossible in C) it's
extremly hard and error prone to do state machines that track every
possible blocking point.  Threads and locking are much easier, but they
come with a cost.  With a threaded model like the one in the qemu taw posix
code currently we will context switch for every request, even if it
would not block.

> 
> -- 
> error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
---end quoted text---

  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-03 15:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-03 19:24 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] RFC: Add new block driver for the VDI format Stefan Weil
2009-07-03 19:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Check availability of uuid header / lib Stefan Weil
2009-07-03 19:29   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add new block driver for the VDI format Stefan Weil
2009-07-05  8:05     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-07-05 14:02       ` Stefan Weil
2009-07-06 10:25         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-07-06 17:19           ` Stefan Weil
2009-07-05 14:44     ` Kevin Wolf
2009-07-06 13:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] RFC: " Anthony Liguori
2009-07-06 21:10   ` Stefan Weil
2009-07-06 21:28     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-07  7:55     ` Kevin Wolf
2009-07-07  9:04       ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-07 10:30       ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-07-07 10:33         ` Kevin Wolf
2009-08-02 14:27   ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-03  2:25     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-03 13:02       ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-03 15:20         ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2009-07-23 15:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] RFC: Add new block driver for the VDI format (aio version) Stefan Weil
2009-07-23 20:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Check availability of uuid header / lib Stefan Weil
2009-07-24  6:32     ` Christoph Egger
2009-10-01 18:13       ` Stefan Weil
2009-10-02  8:32         ` Christoph Egger
2009-10-01 18:10     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Check availability of uuid header / library Stefan Weil
2009-07-23 20:29   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add new block driver for the VDI format (use aio) Stefan Weil
2009-07-24  9:18     ` Kevin Wolf
2009-07-24 16:20       ` Stefan Weil
2009-07-27  8:00         ` Kevin Wolf
2009-07-27  9:23           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-28  6:37             ` Amit Shah
2009-07-28  8:34               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-28  8:56                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-07-28  9:03                   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-28  9:11                     ` Kevin Wolf
2009-07-31 15:04           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-07-31 19:53             ` Stefan Weil
2009-07-31 15:25     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-31 18:27       ` Stefan Weil
2009-07-31 19:45         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add new block driver for the VDI format (only aio supported) Stefan Weil
2009-07-23 20:30   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] add support for new option of vdi format Stefan Weil
2009-07-23 20:34     ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Weil
2009-07-31 14:59     ` [Qemu-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-13 16:53     ` Christoph Hellwig

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