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From: Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: Extending virtio_console to support multiple ports
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:49:25 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090831161925.GA22928@amit-x200.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A9BF2AB.8080104@codemonkey.ws>

On (Mon) Aug 31 2009 [10:56:27], Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Amit Shah wrote:
>> On (Mon) Aug 31 2009 [09:21:13], Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>   
>>> Amit Shah wrote:
>>>     
>>>> Can you please explain your rationale for being so rigid about merging
>>>> the two drivers?
>>>>         
>>> Because they do the same thing.  I'm not going to constantly rehash   
>>> this.  It's been explained multiple times.
>>>     
>>
>> It hardly looks like the same thing each passing day.
>>   
>
> That's BS.  The very first time you posted, you received the same  
> feedback from both Paul and I.  See  
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.qemu/44778.  That was back  
> in June.  You've consistently received the same feedback both on the ML  
> and in private.

I'm just saying they all start looking the same.

>> We're ending up having to compromise on the performance or functionality
>> or simplicity the devices just because of this restriction.
>>   
>
> This is _not_ a high performance device and there so far has been no  
> functionality impact.  I don't understand why you keep dragging your  
> feet about this.  It's very simple, if you post a functional set of  
> patches for a converged virtio-console driver, we'll merge it.  If you  

I have already posted them and have received no feedback about the
patches since. Let me add another request here for you to review them.

> keep arguing about having a separate virtio-serial driver, it's not  
> going to get merged.  I don't know how to be more clear than this.

I'm not at all arguing for a separate virtio-serial driver. Please note
the difference in what I'm asking for: I'm just asking for a good
justification for the merging of the two since it just makes both the
drivers not simple and also introduces dependencies on code outside our
control.

>>> If there are implementation issues within the Linux drivers because 
>>> of  peculiarities of hvc then hvc needs to be fixed.  It has nothing 
>>> to do  with the driver ABI which is what qemu cares about.
>>>     
>>
>> I'd welcome that effort as well. But we all know that's not going to
>> happen anytime soon.
>>   
>
> That is not a justification to add a new device in QEMU.  If we add a  
> new device everytime we encounter a less than ideal interface within a  
> guest, we're going to end up having hundreds of devices.

I just find this argument funny.

		Amit

  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-31 16:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-25  6:17 [Qemu-devel] Extending virtio_console to support multiple ports Amit Shah
2009-08-25  6:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] virtio_console: Add interface for guest and host communication Amit Shah
2009-08-25  6:17   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] char: Emit 'CLOSED' events on char device close Amit Shah
2009-08-25  6:17     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] virtio-console: rename dvq to ovq Amit Shah
2009-08-25  8:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] virtio-console: Add interface for generic guest-host communication Amit Shah
2009-08-26 11:27 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: Extending virtio_console to support multiple ports Amit Shah
2009-08-26 15:45   ` Amit Shah
2009-08-27  4:07     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-08-27  6:51       ` Amit Shah
2009-08-27  9:08       ` Alan Cox
2009-08-27  9:27         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-08-27 11:45           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] hvc_console: provide (un)locked version for hvc_resize() Hendrik Brueckner
2009-08-29  1:15         ` [Qemu-devel] Re: Extending virtio_console to support multiple ports Jamie Lokier
2009-08-27  5:04     ` Michael Ellerman
2009-08-27  6:52       ` Amit Shah
2009-08-27 14:13         ` Ryan Arnold
2009-08-28 17:00   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-30 10:10     ` Amit Shah
2009-08-30 12:48       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-30 13:17         ` Amit Shah
2009-08-31 13:17           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-31 13:51             ` Amit Shah
2009-08-31 14:21               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-31 14:31                 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-31 15:56                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-31 16:19                     ` Amit Shah [this message]
2009-08-31 16:37                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-21  5:20                         ` Rusty Russell

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