From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] block: add enable_write_cache flag
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 23:09:50 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090831220950.GB24318@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090831201651.GA4874@lst.de>
Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> We would have to claim one for data=writeback to be safe, but for I will
> follow Avi's opinion that it is a useless mode and should be our
> dedicated unsafe mode. If anyone disagrees please start the flame
> thrower now and I will change it. Otherwise a documentation patch will
> follow to explicitly document data=writeback as unsafe.
*Opening flame thrower!*
Unsafe, useless?
It's the most useful mode when you're starting and stopping VMs
regularly, or if you can't use O_DIRECT.
It's safe if fdatasync is called - in other words not advertising a
write cache is silly.
I haven't measured but I'd expect it to be much faster than O_SYNC on
some host hardware, for the same reason that barriers + volatile write
cache are much faster on some host hardware than disabling the write cache.
Right now, on a Linux host O_SYNC is unsafe with hardware that has a
volatile write cache. That might not be changed, but if it is than
performance with cache=writethrough will plummet (due to issuing a
CACHE FLUSH to the hardware after every write), while performance with
cache=writeback will be reasonable.
If an unsafe mode is desired (I think it is, for those throwaway
testing VMs, or during OS installs), I suggest adding cache=volatile:
cache=none
O_DIRECT, fdatasync, advertise volatile write cache
cache=writethrough
O_SYNC, do not advertise
cache=writeback
fdatasync, advertise volatile write cache
cache=volatile
nothing (perhaps fdatasync on QEMU blockdev close)
When using guests OSes which issue CACHE FLUSH commands (that's a
guest config issue), why would you ever use cache=writethrough?
cache=writeback should be faster and equally safe - provided you do
actually advertise the write cache! So please do! Not doing so is
silly.
-- Jamie
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-08-31 22:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-31 20:16 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] data integrity fixes Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-31 20:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] block: add enable_write_cache flag Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-31 22:09 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2009-08-31 22:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-31 22:46 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-31 23:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-01 10:38 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-31 22:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-31 22:55 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-31 22:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-31 22:59 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-31 23:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-31 23:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-02 3:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-02 13:13 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-02 14:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-02 19:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-31 20:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] block: use fdatasync instead of fsync Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-31 21:51 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-31 21:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-31 22:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-31 22:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-01 15:59 ` Blue Swirl
2009-09-01 16:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-02 0:34 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-02 0:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-02 1:18 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-02 14:02 ` Blue Swirl
2009-09-02 14:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-31 20:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] block: add bdrv_aio_flush operation Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-01 10:24 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-01 14:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-31 20:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] virtio-blk: add volatile writecache feature Christoph Hellwig
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