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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] block: add enable_write_cache flag
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 23:55:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090831225516.GF24318@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A9C5463.4090904@codemonkey.ws>

Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> >>If an unsafe mode is desired (I think it is, for those throwaway
> >>testing VMs, or during OS installs), I suggest adding cache=volatile:
> >>
> >>    cache=none
> >>        O_DIRECT, fdatasync, advertise volatile write cache
> >>
> >>    cache=writethrough
> >>        O_SYNC, do not advertise
> >>
> >>    cache=writeback
> >>        fdatasync, advertise volatile write cache
> >>
> >>    cache=volatile
> >>        nothing (perhaps fdatasync on QEMU blockdev close)
> >>    
> >
> >Fine withe me, let the flame war begin :)
> >  
> 
> I think we should pity our poor users and avoid adding yet another 
> obscure option that is likely to be misunderstood.
> 
> Can someone do some benchmarking with cache=writeback and fdatasync 
> first and quantify what the real performance impact is?
> 
> I think the two reasonable options are 1) make cache=writeback safe, 
> avoid a massive perf decrease in the process 2) keep cache=writeback as 
> a no-guarantees option.

Right now, cache=writeback does set the bit for SCSI emulation, which makes it
safe for guests which understand that.

Removing that is a regression in safety, not merely a lack of change.

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-31 22:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-31 20:16 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] data integrity fixes Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-31 20:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] block: add enable_write_cache flag Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-31 22:09   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-31 22:16     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-31 22:46       ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-31 23:06         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-01 10:38           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-31 22:53       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-31 22:55         ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2009-08-31 22:58         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-31 22:59         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-31 23:06           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-31 23:09             ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-02  3:53         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-02 13:13           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-02 14:14             ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-02 19:49             ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-31 20:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] block: use fdatasync instead of fsync Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-31 21:51   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-31 21:55     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-31 22:48       ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-31 22:57         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-01 15:59   ` Blue Swirl
2009-09-01 16:04     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-02  0:34       ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-02  0:37         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-02  1:18           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-02 14:02           ` Blue Swirl
2009-09-02 14:15             ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-31 20:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] block: add bdrv_aio_flush operation Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-01 10:24   ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-01 14:25     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-31 20:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] virtio-blk: add volatile writecache feature Christoph Hellwig

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