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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: The State of the SaveVM format
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 15:00:26 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090909120025.GA18473@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3zl94h3jg.fsf@neno.mitica>

On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 11:26:43AM +0200, Juan Quintela wrote:
> "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 10:47:27AM +0200, Juan Quintela wrote:
> >> Notice that there are plans for VMState to do more interesting things
> >> like:
> >> - Be able to show the values in a saved image
> >> - See if a VM is able to load a vmstate (i.e. it has the needed devices
> >>   at the needed versions)
> >> - .....
> >> 
> >> That ones are independent of what we decided for the previous problems.
> >> 
> >> Comments?  Things that I missed for the discussion?
> >> 
> >> Later, Juan.
> >
> > Another idea was to switch to some standard format, like qdev machine
> > description format or xml, so we don't have to maintain our own.
> 
> Are you serious here?  Qemu don't trust the avalavility
> autoconf/automake/gnulib/glib/... and other useful libraries, and now we
> are gonig to require an xml library or qdev machine format (a library
> that don't do releases and is not packaged) for somethnig core of qemu?

I mean the qdev that we have in qemu.  We already know how to
deserialize properties, and need to serialize them to dump machine
description out.


> > All state besides the physical memory dump is normally very
> > small, so this won't have much overhead.
> 
> > This is possible if we give up on backwards compatibility completely.
> 
> If we give up on backwards compatiblity, we fix at least half of the
> problems, independently of swiching to a new format :)
> 
> Later, Juan.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-09 12:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-09  8:47 [Qemu-devel] The State of the SaveVM format Juan Quintela
2009-09-09  8:54 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-09  9:22   ` Juan Quintela
2009-09-09  9:33     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-09  9:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-09  9:26   ` Juan Quintela
2009-09-09 12:00     ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2009-09-09 14:33 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2009-09-09 14:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-09 14:49   ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2009-09-09 14:57     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-09 15:22   ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2009-09-09 15:46     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-09 15:47     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-10  1:10     ` Markus Armbruster
2009-09-10  1:26   ` Markus Armbruster
2009-09-10  2:02     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-10 12:08       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-10 12:55         ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2009-09-10 13:07           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-10 13:26             ` Juan Quintela

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