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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
Cc: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: The State of the SaveVM format
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:07:20 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090910130720.GA32601@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3fxavklhw.fsf@neno.mitica>

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 02:55:07PM +0200, Juan Quintela wrote:
> "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 09:02:07PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> >>>   If we complicate vmstate now to shoehorn pre-vmstate
> >>> formats into vmstate, that ancient history will continue to haunt us.
> >>> Complicating a program is far easier than the other direction.
> >>>   
> >>
> >> Let's take it one step at a time.  There is an awful lot of areas where  
> >> we can support older versions without adding complications.  Let's  
> >> approach the complicated ones one at a time.
> >
> > I'm not sure I understand this talk about "pre-vmstate formats".
> > I thought vmstate patches were, at least for the most part, trying
> > to reimplement existing format with the table-driver design?
> >
> > If that's not so and we are changing the format now, is it too late to
> > consider some standard serialization format rather than rolling our own?
> 
> We are using previous format.  At some point we should move to other
> format.  When/what is still not decided.  Each time at its time.

Ah, that's what I thought.

> Once
> we have everything using vmstate, we have a declarative description of
> the state.  Going for tables with names + types to any format is just an
> exercise of walking the tables and writing a pretty-printer and a parser.
> 
> Later, Juan.

Good point. But if we do intend to switch formats because of vmstate and
separately switch to a standard format, it might be easier on users if
we do a single switch, in the same release cycle.

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-10 13:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-09  8:47 [Qemu-devel] The State of the SaveVM format Juan Quintela
2009-09-09  8:54 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-09  9:22   ` Juan Quintela
2009-09-09  9:33     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-09  9:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-09  9:26   ` Juan Quintela
2009-09-09 12:00     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-09 14:33 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2009-09-09 14:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-09 14:49   ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2009-09-09 14:57     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-09 15:22   ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2009-09-09 15:46     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-09 15:47     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-10  1:10     ` Markus Armbruster
2009-09-10  1:26   ` Markus Armbruster
2009-09-10  2:02     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-10 12:08       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-10 12:55         ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2009-09-10 13:07           ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2009-09-10 13:26             ` Juan Quintela

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