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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: john cooper <john.cooper@third-harmonic.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	john cooper <john.cooper@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	jens.axboe@oracle.com, Vadim Rozenfeld <vrozenfe@redhat.com>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 0/2] fix virtio_blk serial pci config breakage
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:30:32 +0930	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200909302130.33454.rusty@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AC2BF9C.9050403@codemonkey.ws>

On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:47:00 am Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Rusty Russell wrote:
> > On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:25:39 am Anthony Liguori wrote:
> >   
> >> virtio-blk isn't an ATA device so why pretend like it is?
... 
> That's an argument to implement the HDIO_GET_IDENTITY ioctl in the Linux 
> virtio-blk driver.  That's a totally reasonable thing to do.

Your second sentence contradicts your first here.  If it's reasonable to
imitate ATA in Linux, it's reasonable to imitate ATA in virtio.

Using an existing standard should always be the default; one should need a
compelling reason *not* to do so.  In practice, (1) that code already exists
in kvm, and (2) it makes the Linux implementation trivial.

So, what are the real arguments?
(1) Some fields are redundant (eg. geometry) with existing fields already.
(2) Future fields will have to decide whether to use ATA IDENTIFY or normal
    features,
(3) We don't know enough about ATA IDENTIFY to do a decent job of filling
    it in.

I can buy (1), but I still have to deal with (2) and (3) if they're inside
the virtio_blk driver anyway.

Anything else?
Rusty.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-30 12:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-07 18:14 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qemu: make virtio-blk PCI compliant by default Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-08  7:40 ` [Qemu-devel] " john cooper
2009-09-08  7:58   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-21 11:09     ` Rusty Russell
2009-09-21 15:47       ` john cooper
2009-09-22  9:30         ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-22 14:21           ` john cooper
2009-09-22 14:27             ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-22 14:41               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-22 14:45                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-22 15:09               ` john cooper
2009-09-23  1:59                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-23  4:56                   ` john cooper
2009-09-29  6:09                     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] fix virtio_blk serial pci config breakage john cooper
2009-09-29  6:58                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-29  7:22                         ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-29  8:54                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-29  9:16                             ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-29 13:55                             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-29 14:06                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-29 14:14                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-29 16:24                                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-29 16:30                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-29 17:26                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-29 17:31                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-29 17:28                               ` Rusty Russell
2009-09-29 17:31                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30  1:12                                   ` Rusty Russell
2009-09-30  1:22                                     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-05 15:44                                     ` john cooper
2009-09-29 18:44                               ` john cooper
2009-09-29 20:55                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30  1:19                                   ` Rusty Russell
2009-09-30  2:17                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 12:00                                       ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2009-09-30 18:04                                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-05 15:41                                           ` john cooper
2009-09-30 11:47                                   ` Paul Brook
2009-10-05 15:40                                     ` john cooper
2009-09-29 13:51                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-29 16:22                         ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-29 17:24                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-29  6:09                     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] " john cooper
2009-09-29  9:01                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-05 15:47                       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] fix virtio_blk serial pci config breakage, v2 john cooper
2009-10-05 19:54                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-07  5:49                           ` john cooper
2009-10-07 13:48                             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-07 13:52                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-07 13:55                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-07 15:38                                   ` john cooper
2009-10-05 20:15                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-06 14:23                         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-29  6:10                     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] fix virtio_blk serial pci config breakage john cooper
2009-09-29  6:57                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-29 17:14                       ` Rusty Russell
2009-09-14 11:39   ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH] qemu: make virtio-blk PCI compliant by default Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-15  7:29     ` john cooper
2009-09-22  5:06     ` Rusty Russell

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