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From: Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/6] virtio-console: Add a virtio-console bus, support for multiple ports
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:18:43 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091001104843.GA12334@amit-x200.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091001085620.GB8385@amit-x200.redhat.com>

On (Thu) Oct 01 2009 [14:26:20], Amit Shah wrote:
> >>> If you do '-device virtio-console-pci -device virtio-port' (i.e. no
> >>> console) and boot a old guest kernel which expects a (single) console
> >>> being there, what will happen?
> >>
> >> OK -- I get what you're saying now. However, I don't see any problem
> >> here. If there is no virtioconsole specified to qemu, there's no reason
> >> to expect a console in the guest. That was the case in the past and is
> >> the case now as well. The difference is earlier, when probe() in the
> >> guest was called, it definitely meant the existence of a console. Now,
> >> even if probe() is invoked, it doesn't mean a console was found. But
> >> this hardly is a concern.
> >
> > True for new guest kernels, they simply don't create a hvc.
> > Question is what *old* guest kernels will do in that case.
> 
> If the guest kernel doesn't support the new virtio feature
> VIRTIO_F_MULTIPORT, then we disable all this functionality and only
> allow one port. That one port has to be the console port. I've tested
> this combination, btw.
> 
> However, it's possible that some of the checks got lost in the latest
> rework and that port 0 isn't actually a console port. I'll go through
> init code again to ensure this. Thanks for explaining the scenario!

There are a couple of problems with what I said:
- I had to make some changes in the kernel driver because hvc didn't
  work as I expected. If initial consoles were spawned (currently only
  on s390 and powerpc), new ports have to arrive in the same order as
  init consoles were spawned.

  This means /dev/console will be bound to the first console port that
  gets initialised. It's desirable to always have port0 get that
  distinction.

- We won't know if the guest supports multiple ports till the guest
  driver does a probe(). That's much much later than when port drivers
  in qemu are initialised.

So we will have to spawn a console port at id 0 when the bus is
initialised.

There are a couple of problems though:
- How to identify which chardev to associate the port#0 with?
- If there is a virtioconsole device specified on the command line,
  should that be used as port0? Or should that mean we spawn two
  consoles?

I guess for both these cases, some special command line tweaks will be
needed? Or keep the old '-virtioconsole' parameter and put that up as
port0?

		Amit

  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-01 10:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-29 12:04 [Qemu-devel] virtio-console-bus, multiport, virtio-console-port Amit Shah
2009-09-29 12:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/6] char: Emit 'OPENED' events on char device open Amit Shah
2009-09-29 12:04   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/6] qdev: add string property Amit Shah
2009-09-29 12:04     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/6] virtio-console: Add a virtio-console bus, support for multiple ports Amit Shah
2009-09-29 12:04       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/6] virtio-console-port: Add a new device on the virtio-console-bus for generic host-guest communication Amit Shah
2009-09-29 12:04         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/6] vnc: add a is_vnc_active() helper Amit Shah
2009-09-29 12:04           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/6] vnc: Add a virtio-console-bus device to send / receive guest clipboard Amit Shah
2009-09-29 18:13             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-09-30  4:50               ` Amit Shah
2009-09-29 18:08         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/6] virtio-console-port: Add a new device on the virtio-console-bus for generic host-guest communication Gerd Hoffmann
2009-09-30  8:09           ` Nathan Baum
2009-09-29 18:04       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/6] virtio-console: Add a virtio-console bus, support for multiple ports Gerd Hoffmann
2009-09-30  4:47         ` Amit Shah
2009-09-30  8:59           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-09-30 15:55             ` Amit Shah
2009-09-30 18:39               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-01  4:54                 ` Amit Shah
2009-10-01  8:38                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-01  8:56                     ` Amit Shah
2009-10-01 10:48                       ` Amit Shah [this message]
2009-10-01 12:15                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-07  9:25                           ` Amit Shah
2009-10-07  9:51                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-07 10:06                               ` Amit Shah
2009-10-07 11:33                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-07 11:42                                   ` Amit Shah
2009-10-07 13:06                                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-07 13:53                                       ` Amit Shah
2009-10-07 14:03                                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-07 14:00                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 21:13   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/6] char: Emit 'OPENED' events on char device open Anthony Liguori
2009-10-01  4:56     ` Amit Shah
2009-10-01  6:02       ` Amit Shah
2009-10-01 12:54       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-01 13:43         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-01 13:48           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-01 15:18             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-09-29 14:53 ` [Qemu-devel] virtio-console-bus, multiport, virtio-console-port Amit Shah

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