From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Glauber Costa <glommer@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm-devel <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v2 3/9] provide in-kernel ioapic
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:49:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091009164955.GC7393@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091009143225.GV8092@mothafucka.localdomain>
Glauber Costa wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 06:22:48PM +0200, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 06:17:57PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> > > On 10/08/2009 06:07 PM, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> > > >Haven't we already confirmed that it *isn't* just an ioapic accelerator
> > > >because you can't migrate between in-kernel iopic and qemu's ioapic?
> > >
> > > We haven't confirmed it. Both implement the same spec, and if you
> > > can't migrate between them, one of them has a bug (for example, qemu
> > > ioapic doesn't implement polarity - but it's still just a bug).
> > >
> > Are you saying that HW spec (that only describes software visible behavior)
> > completely defines implementation? No other internal state is needed
> > that may be done differently by different implementations?
> Most specifications leaves a lot as implementation specific.
>
> It's not hard to imagine a case in which both devices will follow
> the spec correctly, (no bugs involved), and yet differ in the
> implementation.
Avi's not saying the implementations won't differ. I believe he's
saying that implementation-specific states don't need to be saved if
they have no effect on guest visible behaviour.
-- Jamie
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-09 16:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-07 22:08 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] Add in-kernel irqchip Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 1/9] add base-addr field to io apic state Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 2/9] Save missing fields in VMState Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 3/9] provide in-kernel ioapic Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 4/9] provide in-kernel apic Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 5/9] provide apic_set_irq_delivered Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 6/9] provide in-kernel i8259 chip Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 7/9] initialize " Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 8/9] Initialize in-kernel irqchip Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 9/9] Add -kvm option Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 23:00 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-07 23:14 ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 23:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-12 11:58 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-12 14:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-12 15:34 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-12 16:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-13 8:05 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-13 15:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-13 19:26 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-10-13 20:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 8:08 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-13 15:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-13 22:57 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-08 14:07 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 14:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 14:30 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 14:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 14:41 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 14:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 15:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 15:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-12 11:15 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-08 14:34 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-08 12:02 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v2 7/9] initialize i8259 chip Jan Kiszka
2009-10-08 13:55 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v2 4/9] provide in-kernel apic Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 14:09 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 14:22 ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-09 10:06 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-09 14:30 ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-09 16:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-09 18:06 ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-09 19:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-11 9:10 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-12 13:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 14:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 14:31 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 14:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 14:46 ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-08 14:44 ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-08 11:46 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v2 3/9] provide in-kernel ioapic Jan Kiszka
2009-10-08 13:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 13:54 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 15:53 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-10-08 16:07 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-08 16:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 16:17 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 16:22 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-08 16:29 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 16:34 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-08 16:42 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 17:11 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-09 10:02 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-09 12:02 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-09 14:32 ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-09 16:49 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
[not found] ` <m31vlctk9q.fsf@neno.mitica>
2009-10-09 21:34 ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-12 13:20 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-12 14:18 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-12 14:49 ` Anthony Liguori
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