From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1My6cH-0005Vn-23 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:22:21 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1My6cC-0005QW-D9 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:22:20 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52675 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1My6cC-0005QN-8R for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:22:16 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:55507) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1My6cB-0004iI-TV for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:22:16 -0400 Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:20:00 +0200 From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" Message-ID: <20091014161959.GA30367@redhat.com> References: <20091014143415.GA29937@redhat.com> <4AD5E449.9070301@codemonkey.ws> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4AD5E449.9070301@codemonkey.ws> Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH-updated] qemu/net: add raw backend List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Anthony Liguori Cc: Or Gerlitz , Arnd Bergmann , qemu-devel@nongnu.org On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 09:46:33AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote: > 1) slirp does not behave how they think it should (icmp doesn't work, > guest isn't accessable from host) > 2) it's difficult to figure out which backend behaves the way they want > (socket vs. vde vs. tap) > 3) when they figure out they need tap, tap is difficult to setup This is more or less what we have with sound too, by the way: multiple backends, not one of which works well in all situations. Yes, it would be nice to have a single backend solving all problems, and people are working on it, but I don't think this is an argument that new partial solutions are unacceptable. -- MST