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From: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <bonzini@gnu.org>
Cc: Vincent Hanquez <vincent@snarc.org>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 01/10] Introduce qmisc module
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:05:35 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091018140535.17eca067@doriath> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4ADB337B.7080803@gnu.org>

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:25:47 +0200
Paolo Bonzini <bonzini@gnu.org> wrote:

> 
> >> I'd strongly suggest making the JSON encoder live outside of QObject.
> >> There are many possible ways to represent a QObject.  Think of JSON as a
> >> view of the QObject model.  The human monitor mode representation is a
> >> different view.
> 
> My rationale was that since QObject is tailored over JSON, we might as 
> well declare JSON to be "the" preferred view of the QObject model.

 Maybe this makes sense today as the Monitor is the only heavy user
of QObjects, but I don't think we should count on that.

 As things evolve, I believe more subsystems will start using QObjects
and any "particular" view of it will make little sense.

 To be honest I don't know if this is good, I fear we will end up
enhancing QObjects to the extreme to do OOP in QEMU...

> The human monitor representation would be provided by qstring_format in 
> my patches (and a QError method would call qstring_format in the 
> appropriate way, returning a C string with the result).
> 
> I think the different opinions is also due to different background; mine 
> is in Smalltalk where class extensions---aka monkeypatching---are done 
> in a different style than for example in Python.  Adding a "write as 
> escaped JSON" method to QString would be akin to monkeypatching.

 True.

> >   I agree.
> >
> >   QObject's methods should only be used/needed by the object layer itself,
> > if the problem at hand handles high level data types (QInt, QDict, etc)
> > then we need a new type.
> >
> >   The right way to have what Paolo is suggesting, would be to have a
> > toString() method in the object layer and allow it to be overridden.
> 
> That's exactly what I did in my patches, except I called it encode_json 
> rather than toString.

 Okay, I just took a quick look at them and am looking at Anthony's
right now.

 Anyway, my brainstorm on this would be to have to_string() and have
default methods on all types to return a simple string representation.
The QJson type could override to_string() if needed, this way specific
json bits stays inside the json module.

 But I see that Anthony has added a qjson type already..

  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-18 16:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-08 21:35 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v0 00/10]: More QObject conversions Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-08 21:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/10] Introduce qmisc module Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-15 14:02   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 15:26     ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-15 15:35       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 17:17         ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-15 18:33           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 18:45           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 16:39       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-10-15 16:46         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-10-15 17:28         ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-15 18:34           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-16 13:24             ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-10-16 13:45               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-16 17:35                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-10-16 17:38                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-16 19:36                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-10-16 21:37                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-17  0:32                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-10-17  0:38                           ` malc
2009-10-17  0:46                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-10-17  1:49                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-17  1:50                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-17  7:48                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-10-17 10:01                             ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-10-18 14:06                               ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-18 14:08                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-10-18 14:49                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-18 15:18                                     ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-18 15:25                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-10-18 16:05                                         ` Luiz Capitulino [this message]
2009-10-18 16:32                                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-18 18:04                                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-10-18 22:00                                             ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-18 16:26                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-18 17:32                                       ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-10-18 21:24                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-18 15:06                                 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-10-18 15:35                                   ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-18 15:39                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-10-18 16:56                                     ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-10-18 16:29                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-18 16:46                                     ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-10-18 17:59                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-10-08 21:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/10] monitor: Convert do_memory_save() to QObject Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-08 21:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/10] monitor: Convert do_physical_memory_save() " Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-08 21:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/10] monitor: Convert do_migrate() " Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-08 21:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/10] monitor: Convert do_migrate_set_speed() " Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-08 21:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/10] monitor: Convert do_migrate_cancel() " Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-08 21:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/10] monitor: Convert do_info_migrate() " Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-10 12:11   ` Markus Armbruster
2009-10-15 14:07   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 21:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/10] monitor: Convert bdrv_info() " Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-10 12:18   ` Markus Armbruster
2009-10-14 13:23     ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-14 14:11       ` Markus Armbruster
2009-10-15 14:13   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 21:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/10] monitor: Convert pci_device_hot_add() " Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-08 21:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/10] monitor: Convert do_pci_device_hot_remove() " Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-10 12:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v0 00/10]: More QObject conversions Markus Armbruster
2009-10-11 14:48   ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-12 15:36     ` Markus Armbruster

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