From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: aliguori@us.ibm.com, kraxel@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/9] qdev: Use QError for not found error
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:12:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091019101241.GA27871@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877huy6hzm.fsf@pike.pond.sub.org>
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:34:21AM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com> writes:
>
> > Signed-off-by: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
> > ---
> > hw/qdev.c | 4 ++--
> > 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/hw/qdev.c b/hw/qdev.c
> > index 906e897..3ce48f7 100644
> > --- a/hw/qdev.c
> > +++ b/hw/qdev.c
> > @@ -28,6 +28,7 @@
> > #include "net.h"
> > #include "qdev.h"
> > #include "sysemu.h"
> > +#include "qerror.h"
> > #include "monitor.h"
> >
> > static int qdev_hotplug = 0;
> > @@ -176,8 +177,7 @@ DeviceState *qdev_device_add(QemuOpts *opts)
> > /* find driver */
> > info = qdev_find_info(NULL, driver);
> > if (!info) {
> > - qemu_error("Device \"%s\" not found. Try -device '?' for a list.\n",
> > - driver);
> > + qemu_error_structed(QERR_QDEV_NFOUND, "{ s: s }", "name", driver);
> > return NULL;
> > }
> > if (info->no_user) {
> Now let's look at errors from the client's perspective.
>
> Clients need to classify errors to figure out how to respond to them.
> Something like client error (i.e. your command was stupid, and trying
> again will be just as stupid), permanent server error (it wasn't stupid,
> but I can't do it for you), transient server error (I couldn't do it for
> you, but trying again later could help).
>
> Some classical protocols (HTTP, FTP) provide error class (they cleverly
> encode it into the error code). This gives clients a chance to sanely
> handle errors they don't know.
>
> Even with error class figured out, clients may still be interested in
> the exact error code, at least in some cases.
>
> They may also be interested in a human readable description of the
> error, to present to their human users. Some classical protocols
> provide that in addition to an error code. This gives clients a chance
> to sanely report errors they don't know to human users.
>
> I suspect that the additional error data is the error's least
> interesting part most of the time. When we get QERR_QDEV_NFOUND, I
> figure it's usually clear what device we were trying to find.
>
> But these are just my educated guesses. I'd love to hear what folks
> involved with actual clients have to say. Anyone from libvirt?
I think just returning error codes to the client is far too little
information. I don't think we need the fully normalized structure
that Luiz originally proposed with bus/dev addresses split out, but
we certainly need to include a string description giving as much
detail as possible. If attaching a host USB device failed, I don't
want a single error code QERR_OPEN_FAILED, nor a generic message
like 'could not open device', i want the exact details, eg
'could not open device: permission denied'
'could not open device: no such file or directory'
'could not open device: device or resource busy'
The localization issue is somewhat of a red herring though. This string
description is not something that clients would ultimately expose to the
user. The client apps would likely present a more generic error message
to the user, based off the error code. The error description received
from QEMU will instead be written out to the logs as a record for later
troubleshooting. eg if the user files a bug report, it will include the
full error details, so libvirt/qemu maintainers have a better chance of
figuring out what went wrong.
So ultimately these error messages are for developers, not users benefit.
Daniel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-19 10:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-13 16:56 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v0 0/9] QError Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-13 16:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/9] QDict: Introduce qdict_iter() Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-13 16:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/9] check-qdict: Add test for qdict_iter() Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-13 16:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/9] qmisc: Introduce qobject_from_va() Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-13 21:52 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-10-14 13:40 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-14 14:27 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-10-13 16:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/9] Introduce QError Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-13 16:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/9] monitor: QError support Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-13 21:59 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-10-14 13:14 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-10-14 14:07 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-10-13 16:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/9] QError: Add qdev not found error Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-14 23:02 ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-10-15 13:34 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-15 17:16 ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-10-15 17:52 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-15 18:13 ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-10-15 19:08 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-15 20:13 ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-10-15 20:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 21:18 ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-10-15 21:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 22:44 ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-10-16 8:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-10-16 13:05 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-19 10:25 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-10-19 12:28 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-19 12:42 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-10-16 13:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-18 4:25 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jamie Lokier
2009-10-18 12:17 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-10-19 16:50 ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-10-19 21:16 ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-10-16 7:30 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-16 12:39 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-16 13:34 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-10-16 13:37 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-16 14:17 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-16 17:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-10-16 17:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-16 8:02 ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-10-18 4:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-18 4:34 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-13 16:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/9] qdev: Use QError for " Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-13 22:34 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-10-14 13:29 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-10-14 16:42 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-14 14:51 ` [Qemu-devel] " Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-19 10:12 ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2009-10-19 10:40 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-19 10:47 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-10-19 11:22 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-10-19 14:00 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-19 15:21 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-10-19 15:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-19 15:39 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-10-13 16:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 8/9] QError: Add do_info_balloon() errors Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-13 16:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 9/9] monitor: do_info_balloon(): use QError Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-15 19:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v0 0/9] QError Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 19:37 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-19 13:13 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-10-19 14:11 ` Anthony Liguori
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