From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1N25Gm-0000wh-UG for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:44:36 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1N25Gi-0000tq-Ee for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:44:36 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41811 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1N25Gi-0000tl-9U for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:44:32 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:49900) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N25Gh-0005Oe-PA for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:44:32 -0400 Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:44:17 -0200 From: Luiz Capitulino Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH] new SDL keyboard shortcuts to start and stop VM Message-ID: <20091025134417.31d1f133@doriath> In-Reply-To: <4AE46EA1.7040505@redhat.com> References: <5d6222a80910210924j62505b7dtf298754ce65f1c99@mail.gmail.com> <20091021183503.GA27677@shareable.org> <20091022124036.5df991f3@doriath> <4AE07D06.4080205@codemonkey.ws> <20091022143833.51c48260@doriath> <4AE0A535.3000607@codemonkey.ws> <4AE15DFD.6050203@redhat.com> <4AE1974E.5010303@redhat.com> <4AE1B6A6.3060507@codemonkey.ws> <4AE46EA1.7040505@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Avi Kivity Cc: Kevin Wolf , Mulyadi Santosa , qemu-devel@nongnu.org On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:28:33 +0200 Avi Kivity wrote: > On 10/23/2009 03:59 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote: > > Your answer may be, this is for a developer and they'll be aware of > > all the short comings/gotchas but this ends up being a rather > > user-hostile interface. People are never as aware of short > > comings/gotchas as we'd like them to be. If there was no other way > > for a developer to do this, I'd be more inclined to find a way to > > support this but it's just a matter of writing a script or if you > > really need a short cut, you can do it with standard gnome short cuts > > or write a very simple vnc client based on gvncviewer (we're talking a > > dozen lines of added code) to do this for you. > > > > vncviewer based displays may work now, but they are inefficient and will > likely fall apart if/when we have 3D support. > > I'd much rather see a real GUI client, perhaps implemented by scripting > QObjects or QMP. A natural step for existing ones, they could also provide a shell by their own. An interesting question is whether we should remove features from the current shell when the time comes..