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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Scott Tsai <scottt.tw@gmail.com>
Cc: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH] qemu/virtio: make wmb compiler barrier + comments
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:09:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091111180928.GB31061@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ef2f888d0911110918g2c30aba6y765461d2c1737baf@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 01:18:11AM +0800, Scott Tsai wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 01:45:35PM +0000, Paul Brook wrote:
> >> If you don't need real barriers, then why does the kvm code have them?
> >
> > We need real barriers but AFAIK kvm does not have them :(
> > IOW: virtio is currently broken with kvm, and my patch did
> > not fix this. The comment that I added says as much.
> 
> How about just using GCC's __sync__synchronize atomic builtin (if
> detected as available by configure)?
> It's a full memory barrier instead of just a write barrier,  for x86,
> it generates the same code as the current Linux mb() implementation:
> "mfence" on x86_64
> "lock orl $0x0,(%esp)" on x86 unless -march is specified to a
> processor with "mfence".
> PPC could continue to use "eieio" while other architectures could just
> default to __sync_synchronize
> 
> I do have a newbie question, when exactly would vrtio have to handle
> concurrent access from multiple threads?
> My current reading of the code suggests:
> 1. when CONFIG_IOTHREAD is true
> 2. when CONFIG_KVM is true and the guest machine has multiple CPUs

Right. I don't think CONFIG_IOTHREAD can work correctly
without kvm though: how would atomics be handled?

-- 
MST

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-11-11 18:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-26 13:17 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qemu/virtio: make wmb compiler barrier + comments Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-11  1:34 ` Paul Brook
2009-11-11  9:37   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-11 13:01     ` Paul Brook
2009-11-11 13:12       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-11 13:45         ` Paul Brook
2009-11-11 14:08           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-11 14:16             ` Paul Brook
2009-11-11 14:34               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-11 16:13                 ` Paul Brook
2009-11-11 17:18             ` Scott Tsai
2009-11-11 18:08               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-11 18:09               ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2009-11-11 18:37                 ` Scott Tsai
2009-11-11 19:56                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-13  3:00               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-11 13:15       ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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