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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Scott Tsai <scottt.tw@gmail.com>
Cc: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH] qemu/virtio: make wmb compiler barrier + comments
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:56:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091111195616.GA31861@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ef2f888d0911111037mc139dfekfa0a4ea564431a53@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 02:37:26AM +0800, Scott Tsai wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:09 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> I do have a newbie question, when exactly would vrtio have to handle
> >> concurrent access from multiple threads?
> >> My current reading of the code suggests:
> >> 1. when CONFIG_IOTHREAD is true
> >> 2. when CONFIG_KVM is true and the guest machine has multiple CPUs
> >
> > Right. I don't think CONFIG_IOTHREAD can work correctly
> > without kvm though: how would atomics be handled?
> 
> I naively imagined it to work like this:
> When CONFIG_IOTHREAD is true and CONFIG_KVM is false,
> all the tcg CPUs run in the tcg_cpu_thread and device emulation code
> runs in io_thread,
> so if the tcg translators generate suitable memory barrier
> instructions when it sees a "lfence", "sfence", "mfence" instruction
> while emulating a x86 or "sync" while emulating a MIPS everything
> should work

that might not be enough. guest can do e.g. atomics on the same memory
with iothread. In parctice, with virtio it doesn't.

> but a quick look at target-*/translate.c suggests memory
> barrier instructions are treated as nops.
> 
> So maybe --enable-io-thread while --disable-kvm should not be allowed
> at configure time.
> Does anyone actually ship qemu with CONFIG_IOTHREAD enabled?

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-11 19:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-26 13:17 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qemu/virtio: make wmb compiler barrier + comments Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-11  1:34 ` Paul Brook
2009-11-11  9:37   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-11 13:01     ` Paul Brook
2009-11-11 13:12       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-11 13:45         ` Paul Brook
2009-11-11 14:08           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-11 14:16             ` Paul Brook
2009-11-11 14:34               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-11 16:13                 ` Paul Brook
2009-11-11 17:18             ` Scott Tsai
2009-11-11 18:08               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-11 18:09               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-11 18:37                 ` Scott Tsai
2009-11-11 19:56                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2009-11-13  3:00               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-11 13:15       ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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