From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NDIB7-0001xC-Q1 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:45:05 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NDIB2-0001v0-R4 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:45:05 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56432 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NDIB1-0001ur-7d for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:44:59 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:40817) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NDIB0-0005xl-Uq for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:44:59 -0500 Received: from int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.11]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nAPDiviF030225 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:44:57 -0500 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:42:20 +0200 From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Live migration protocol, device features, ABIs and other beasts Message-ID: <20091125134220.GD9333@redhat.com> References: <4B0952C9.9010803@redhat.com> <4B0A899F.2090805@codemonkey.ws> <20091124140517.GL2405@redhat.com> <20091124143523.GQ2405@redhat.com> <4B0D3441.8010307@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B0D3441.8010307@redhat.com> List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Gerd Hoffmann Cc: dlaor@redhat.com, qemu-devel , Juan Quintela On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 02:42:25PM +0100, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: >>> And this is also the trivial part to describe: I want a >>> machine like the one in qemu-0.11. >> >> Yes, but there might be a ton of reasons to want a >> machine like the one in qemu 0.11. >> The need to migrate to old qemu is very rare, >> it is a completely separate decision >> one might take long after starting qemu, > > Doesn't work. If you have a qemu 0.11 machine, a virtio nic and your > guest uses MSI-X you simply can't migrate to qemu 0.10. End of story. > If you want to be able to migrate to 0.10 you have to start in 0.10 > compat mode with MSI-X disabled. So IMHO it does makes sense to tie the > savevm format to -M pc-. > > cheers, > Gerd MSI-X is an orthogonal issue, let's not mix it in. Maybe you are using e1000, or maybe you disabled MSI-X with a flag. -- MST