From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Kevin O'Connor <kevin@koconnor.net>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Sebastian Herbszt <herbszt@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: POST failure (loop) with isapc and seabios
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:49:25 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091126064925.GS2999@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091125225349.GA18812@morn.localdomain>
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 05:53:49PM -0500, Kevin O'Connor wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 11:04:20PM +0100, Sebastian Herbszt wrote:
> >> Do different things during reset depending on CMOS values doesn't sound
> >> right to me. I don't know what is implemented right now. I thought that
> >> we reload BIOS on reset.
> >
> > Currently the BIOS seems to be only loaded once and not reloaded
> > during the life time of a VM.
> > I don't think there is a notion of BIOS reload on real hardware. CPU
> > access to it is either directed to the rom (power-up configuration,
> > all those fancy reset conditions) or to ram.
>
> I see a "BIOS reload" as equivalent to directing access to rom.
>
> > How is shadowing currently implemented in qemu? Is the only BIOS
> > copy overwritten or is the rom copy separate from the ram copy?
>
> My understanding is that both the ram and rom are kept. (Though, on a
> "BIOS reload" I don't know if the ram is preserved.)
>
>
> To summarize the discussion so far, there seems to be a potential
> issue with reset:
>
> * If qemu doesn't reload the bios (a soft-reset) then there is a
> potential issue with the bios and option roms not running properly
> after a system reset invoked by Linux or other modern OSs.
>
> * If qemu does reload the bios (a hard-reset) then there is a good
> chance that old DOS programs will break when they invoke a reset in
> an attempt to switch from protected mode to real mode.
>
> Is that correct?
>
Reloading of a BIOS will not prevent old DOS program from working.
It will slow switch to real mode, but otherwise I see no harm. What may
prevent them from working is the fact that too much devices are reset on
triple fault, but this has nothing to do with reloading of a BIOS.
--
Gleb.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-26 6:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-19 21:30 [Qemu-devel] POST failure (loop) with isapc and seabios Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-20 22:51 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin O'Connor
2009-11-21 14:37 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-22 12:35 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-22 15:07 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-22 15:10 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-22 15:31 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-22 15:38 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-22 17:40 ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-11-22 21:15 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-22 22:04 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-23 11:14 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-23 11:17 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-22 20:01 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-23 11:11 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-23 19:19 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-23 19:43 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-23 21:30 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-24 6:28 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-24 14:38 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-24 14:40 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-25 6:09 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-25 12:20 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-25 15:31 ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-11-25 16:42 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-25 22:11 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-27 3:00 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-27 19:13 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-25 22:04 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-25 22:53 ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-11-26 6:49 ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2009-11-26 7:15 ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-11-26 7:20 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-26 7:48 ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-11-26 7:56 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-26 8:12 ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-11-26 8:19 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-26 16:03 ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-11-26 22:35 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-27 5:39 ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-11-26 6:45 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-26 20:55 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-27 7:44 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-27 20:42 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-29 8:20 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-29 22:53 ` Natalia Portillo
2009-11-30 7:12 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-30 20:53 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-30 21:02 ` Natalia Portillo
2009-12-01 2:16 ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-11-30 20:34 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-12-01 9:37 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-25 21:08 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-24 23:27 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-25 10:48 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-22 15:38 ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-11-23 11:16 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-23 17:57 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-23 18:07 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-23 19:12 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-23 19:18 ` Gleb Natapov
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