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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Sebastian Herbszt <herbszt@gmx.de>
Cc: Kevin O'Connor <kevin@koconnor.net>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: POST failure (loop) with isapc and seabios
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 03:00:23 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091127030023.GC6094@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <168FD1E43DF64B0DB0942A6EC0BD3A62@FSCPC>

Sebastian Herbszt wrote:
> >We could have qemu do a soft reset (not reload rom) on a triple fault
> >or keyboard controller reset, and then have SeaBIOS request a hard
> >reset (have qemu reload rom) if it detects a soft reset that is not a
> >"resume" request.
> >
> >I'm also not sure what qemu does today.
> 
> I don't think such an interface would add a long time benefit and
> would prefer a proper solution which will not tie seabios even more
> to qemu. One day it might be possible to run a commercial BIOS on
> qemu, just like it is possible on Bochs.  Adding this interface
> might prevent that.

What does a real BIOS on real hardware do?

Do real BIOSes make a decision as described above, and we're just
assuming they don't?

One way to answer may be: On a real PC with i440FX, what kind of reset
are the different reset methods (triple fault, keyboard etc.) normally
configured to do?

IIRC, HIMEM.SYS in DOS must use at least one of the
switch-to-real-mode methods to work, and that driver is needed by
Windows 3/3.11/95/98/ME, but I'm a bit vague on the details.

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-27  3:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-19 21:30 [Qemu-devel] POST failure (loop) with isapc and seabios Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-20 22:51 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin O'Connor
2009-11-21 14:37   ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-22 12:35   ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-22 15:07     ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-22 15:10       ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-22 15:31         ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-22 15:38           ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-22 17:40             ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-11-22 21:15               ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-22 22:04               ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-23 11:14                 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-23 11:17               ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-22 20:01             ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-23 11:11               ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-23 19:19                 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-23 19:43                   ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-23 21:30                     ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-24  6:28                       ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-24 14:38                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-24 14:40                           ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-25  6:09                             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-25 12:20                               ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-25 15:31                                 ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-11-25 16:42                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-25 22:11                                   ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-27  3:00                                     ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2009-11-27 19:13                                       ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-25 22:04                                 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-25 22:53                                   ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-11-26  6:49                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-26  7:15                                       ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-11-26  7:20                                         ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-26  7:48                                           ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-11-26  7:56                                             ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-26  8:12                                               ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-11-26  8:19                                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-26 16:03                                                   ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-11-26 22:35                                     ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-27  5:39                                       ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-11-26  6:45                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-26 20:55                                     ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-27  7:44                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-27 20:42                                         ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-29  8:20                                           ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-29 22:53                                             ` Natalia Portillo
2009-11-30  7:12                                               ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-30 20:53                                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-30 21:02                                                   ` Natalia Portillo
2009-12-01  2:16                                                   ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-11-30 20:34                                             ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-12-01  9:37                                               ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-25 21:08                               ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-24 23:27                         ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-25 10:48                           ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-22 15:38         ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-11-23 11:16           ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-23 17:57             ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-23 18:07               ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-23 19:12                 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-11-23 19:18                   ` Gleb Natapov

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