From: "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Disk image shared and exclusive locks.
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:59:33 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091207115933.GA27840@amd.home.annexia.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091207114932.GL24530@redhat.com>
On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 11:49:32AM +0000, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 11:31:47AM +0000, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 11:30:14AM +0000, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> > > On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 11:19:54AM +0000, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> > > >
> > > > No, the question is whether it makes sense to provide a 'shared'
> > > > option on the command line, or simply to always map:
> > > >
> > > > image opened read only => F_FDLCK
> > > > image opened writable => F_WRLCK
> > > >
> > > > and provide only a single command line option: 'lock'.
> > >
> > > That doesn't work in the case of setting up a clustered filesystem
> > > shared between guests. That requires that the disk be opened writable,
> > > but with a shared (F_RDLOCK) lock.
> >
> > I think Jamie's point is that you might as well use no locking at all
> > in this configuration. It's hard to see what lock=shared is
> > protecting you against.
>
> This is saying that there is no need to protect 'shared writers'
> from 'exclusive writers', which is not true.
[example snipped]
OK so the case for lock=shared is where you have a shared clustered
resource, *and* an uber-admin-tool which may require exclusive access
to the resource. I now understand, and that seems to make sense
(albeit a rather rare case).
It has to be said the only reason I implemented the shared mode in the
original patch, was because both POSIX and Win32 (LockFileEx) have the
distinction between shared and exclusive, in other words 'coz it was
easy :-)
Rich.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-07 11:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-04 16:53 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Disk image shared and exclusive locks Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-04 17:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-04 21:57 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-04 22:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-05 17:31 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-05 17:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-05 17:55 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-05 17:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 10:31 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 10:42 ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-07 10:48 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-07 10:56 ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-07 11:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 11:51 ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-07 12:06 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 10:45 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 11:19 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 11:30 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 11:31 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 11:38 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 11:49 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 11:59 ` Richard W.M. Jones [this message]
2009-12-07 14:35 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-07 13:43 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 14:01 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 14:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 14:28 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 14:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-08 9:40 ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-07 11:04 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 10:58 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 11:35 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 13:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 14:08 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 14:22 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 14:31 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 14:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-08 9:48 ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-08 10:16 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 14:38 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-07 9:38 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 10:39 ` Chris Webb
2009-12-07 13:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 13:38 ` Chris Webb
2009-12-07 13:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 14:25 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 14:58 ` Chris Webb
2009-12-07 14:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH VERSION 2] " Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 15:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-08 8:48 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-08 10:00 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2009-12-08 10:25 ` Richard W.M. Jones
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