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From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Disk image shared and exclusive locks.
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:01:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091207140132.GN24530@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B1D0699.4070402@codemonkey.ws>

On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 07:43:53AM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> >That doesn't work in the case of setting up a clustered filesystem
> >shared between guests. That requires that the disk be opened writable,
> >but with a shared (F_RDLOCK) lock.
> >  
> 
> If you'd like data corruption :-)
> 
> qemu -drive file=/dev/hda,lock=shared   # clustered file system
> qemu -drive file=/dev/hda,lock=shared   # clustered file system
> 
> qemu -drive file=/dev/hda,lock=shared -snapshot  # i have no awareness 
> of the last two.
> 
> The 3rd invocation is totally fine.  /dev/hda is shared (but the 
> expectation is read-only).

> Better to stick with on/off.  That gives much easier to understand 
> semantics.

The 3rd invocation is not changing the backing file, so it is not causing
data corruption on the master file. Sure the 3rd OS instance will probably
crash & get confused because its backing file is changing under its feet
but as long as 'commit' isn't used, it is still safe. 'commit' should 
require that the disk have been locked in exclusive  mode from the time
it started. It is not safe to merely let it upgrade the lock from
shared to exclusive at time of committing because of this exact scenario.

Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-07 14:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-04 16:53 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Disk image shared and exclusive locks Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-04 17:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-04 21:57   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-04 22:29     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-05 17:31       ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-05 17:47         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-05 17:55           ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-05 17:59             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 10:31               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 10:42                 ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-07 10:48                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-07 10:56                     ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-07 11:28                   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 11:51                     ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-07 12:06                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 10:45                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 11:19                   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 11:30                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 11:31                       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 11:38                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 11:49                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 11:59                           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 14:35                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-07 13:43                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 14:01                         ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2009-12-07 14:15                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 14:28                             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 14:53                               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-08  9:40                                 ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-07 11:04                 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 10:58           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 11:35             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 13:39             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 14:08               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 14:22                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 14:31                   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 14:55                     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-08  9:48                     ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-08 10:16                       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 14:38               ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-07  9:38   ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 10:39 ` Chris Webb
2009-12-07 13:32   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 13:38     ` Chris Webb
2009-12-07 13:47       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 14:25     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 14:58       ` Chris Webb
2009-12-07 14:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH VERSION 2] " Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 15:06   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-08  8:48     ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-08 10:00   ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2009-12-08 10:25     ` Richard W.M. Jones

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