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From: Izik Eidus <ieidus@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Spice project is now open
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 11:10:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091213111042.2034f802@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B2432B9.5070203@codemonkey.ws>

On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:18:01 -0600
Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws> wrote:

> Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 05:52:49PM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> >   
> >> This is the bit that confuses me.  VNC is not a driver.  When I
> >> say it cannot crash the guest, I mean that if the VNC server makes
> >> a mistake, there may be a SEGV in qemu or it may just result in a
> >> VNC client seeing corruption.  The guest does not see a bad VGA
> >> register content though or something like that.  VNC is a host
> >> driver or backend service or whatever you want to call it.  VNC
> >> does not have migration state because it has no guest visible
> >> state. 
> >
> > Again, a guest crash because of qlx interaction is not what I
> > mean. And the reason I wasn't even thinking about this scenario is
> > that the kind of paravirt-driver related guest crash you are talking
> > about, if it can happen, can happen even if spice lib in the qemu
> > side lives in a separate address space.
> 
> Yes, that's absolutely true.
> 
> >  This is why this case of pure guest
> > crash through qlx is not relevant to decide if to have spice lib
> > inside our outside of qemu address space, I think that is more about
> > the qlx driver and not spice on the qemu side.
> >   
> 
> The guest visible state thing has nothing to do with where it lives.  
> Sorry if that's gotten mixed in with this discussion.

The guest visible state is just the qxl device.
It is pci device..., and it migrate just like any other pci device
inside qemu...

What am I missing here?

  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-13  9:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2009-12-11 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open Yaniv Kamay
2009-12-11 14:03   ` Jun Koi
2009-12-11 14:17     ` Yaniv Kamay
2009-12-11 14:09   ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-11 14:28     ` Jun Koi
2009-12-11 16:34       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 16:52         ` Chris Wright
2009-12-11 17:01           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 17:31             ` Chris Wright
2009-12-11 17:02         ` Yaniv Kamay
2009-12-11 17:16           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 17:21             ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-11 17:28               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 17:18           ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-11 18:49           ` Glauber Costa
2009-12-11 15:57   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 16:47     ` Yaniv Kamay
2009-12-11 16:57       ` Chris Wright
2009-12-11 17:00       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 17:38         ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-12-11 18:48     ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 18:57       ` Ben Taylor
2009-12-11 19:06         ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 19:09         ` Glauber Costa
2009-12-11 19:00       ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 19:06         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 19:22           ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 19:37             ` Glauber Costa
2009-12-11 19:07         ` Glauber Costa
2009-12-11 19:24           ` Izik Eidus
2010-01-23 23:39           ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 19:03       ` malc
2009-12-11 19:10         ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 19:24           ` malc
2009-12-11 19:33             ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 19:53               ` malc
2009-12-11 20:26                 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-13 11:11                   ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 19:04       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 19:15         ` Glauber Costa
2009-12-11 19:25           ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 19:42           ` Chris Wright
2009-12-11 19:21         ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 19:30           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 19:39             ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 19:51               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 20:21                 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 20:46                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 21:13                     ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 21:54                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 22:34                         ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-12  0:54                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-12  3:34                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-12  9:14                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-12 15:11                               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-12 16:09                                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-12 17:28                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-13 10:18                                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-11 22:08                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-12-11 22:33                         ` Dor Laor
2009-12-11 22:46                         ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 23:54                           ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-12  0:14                             ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-12  0:27                               ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-12  0:53                                 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-12  1:08                                   ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-12  1:33                                     ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 23:58                           ` [Qemu-devel] X support for QXL and SPICE Soeren Sandmann
2009-12-12  0:05                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-12-12  0:31                               ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-12  0:37                                 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-12  0:08                             ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-12  3:31                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-12-12  3:52                               ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-12 15:13                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-12 15:29                                   ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-12 15:43                                     ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-12 16:01                                       ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-12  6:22                               ` Dave Airlie
2009-12-12 16:39                               ` Soeren Sandmann
2009-12-14 14:07                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-14 13:56                         ` [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-14 14:33                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 20:32                 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 20:48                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 21:31                     ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 21:58                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 22:55                         ` Chris Wright
2009-12-12  3:27                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-12  1:03                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-12  3:44                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-12 14:44                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-12 15:03                               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-12 16:06                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-12 17:40                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-12 17:48                                     ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-12 19:26                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-12 19:48                                         ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-12 22:41                                           ` Dor Laor
2009-12-12 22:35                                     ` Dor Laor
2009-12-12 23:46                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-13  0:23                                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-13 10:46                                         ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-14 14:42                                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 14:53                                             ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-14 15:17                                               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-14 15:21                                                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-14 15:46                                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 15:10                                             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-14 15:50                                               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 16:00                                               ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-14 16:15                                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 17:52                                               ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-12-13 14:56                                         ` Gildas Le Nadan
2009-12-14 14:40                                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-14 14:50                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-12 23:43                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-12 23:52                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-13  0:04                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-13  0:18                                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-13  9:10                                             ` Izik Eidus [this message]
2009-12-15 13:25                                         ` Soeren Sandmann
2009-12-11 19:25         ` [Qemu-devel] " Mark McLoughlin
2009-12-11 19:38           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 19:45             ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-12-11 19:53               ` Anthony Liguori

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