From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NMoFR-0001cX-Pd for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:48:53 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NMoFM-0001aZ-Ie for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:48:53 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53658 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NMoFM-0001aU-Eg for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:48:48 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:19017) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NMoFM-0004eg-2m for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:48:48 -0500 Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:48:41 +0200 From: Gleb Natapov Message-ID: <20091221194841.GG21163@redhat.com> References: <20091220155201.GP4490@redhat.com> <4B2E6364.9060903@codemonkey.ws> <20091221015948.GA23556@morn.localdomain> <20091221073204.GS4490@redhat.com> <4B2FA518.7000905@codemonkey.ws> <20091221164351.GW4490@redhat.com> <4B2FAFB4.8050102@codemonkey.ws> <20091221174312.GD21163@redhat.com> <1DB151B654AF44C981FA3327A3A514E6@FSCPC> <4B2FC9C3.7040503@codemonkey.ws> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B2FC9C3.7040503@codemonkey.ws> Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH 0/8] option rom loadingoverhaul. List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Anthony Liguori Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Kevin O'Connor , Gerd Hoffmann , Sebastian Herbszt On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 01:17:23PM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote: > >Does any OS (Windows?) depend on the tables the bios creates (e.g. > >smbios) > >for licensing? It would be ugly if Windows wants you to > >re-activate after a reboot > >following a migration to newer qemu version and therefore possibly > >changed tables > >due to newer bios. > > Yes, and this is a good point. ACPI table changes can absolutely > cause re-activation. If we migrate from 0.12 -> 0.13 and make major > changes to the ACPI tables in 0.13, then it's very likely that will > result in problems for Windows guests. > On the contrary. This is very unlikely. Otherwise BIOS upgrade would cause Windows reactivation. > I really think that we need to snapshot the FW and store it with the > guest state. If we switch all FW to be allocated with > qemu_ram_alloc() and we use an id mechanism, then this will Just > Work for savevm based snapshots and live migration. However, for it > to work with -M pc-0.11 started from a cold boot, we need an nvram > file. We probably want to make available versioned nvram files from > each release too. > Yes, firmware should be part of machine description. -- Gleb.