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From: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: quintela@redhat.com, Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	kraxel@redhat.com, amit.shah@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCHv2 10/12] tap: add vhost/vhostfd options
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 14:43:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201003031443.30218.paul@codesourcery.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B8E6EF3.5020605@codemonkey.ws>

> > That sounds like it's likely to come back and bite you. The guest has no
> > idea which areas of ram happen to be contiguous on the host.
> 
> Practically speaking, with target-i386 anything that is contiguous in
> guest physical memory is contiguous in the host address space provided
> it's ram.
> 
> These assumptions are important.  I have a local branch (that I'll send
> out soon) that implements a ram API and converted virtio to make use of
> it.  I'm seeing a ~50% increase in tx throughput.

IMO supporting discontiguous regions is a requirement. target-i386 might get 
away with contiguous memory, because it omits most of the board level details. 
For everything else I'd expect this to be a real problem.

I'm not happy about the not-remapable assumption either.  In my experience 
this is fairly common.  In fact many real x86 machines have this capability 
(to workaround the 4G PCI hole).

By my reading the ppc440_bamboo board fails both your assumptions.
I imagine the KVM-PPC folks would be upset if you decided that virtio no 
longer worked on this board.

This is all somewhat disappointing, given virtio is supposed to be a DMA based 
architecture, and not rely on shared memory semantics.

Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-03 14:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-25 18:27 [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 00/12] vhost-net: upstream integration Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 05/12] virtio: add APIs for queue fields Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:49   ` Blue Swirl
2010-02-26 14:53     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 19:25   ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-02-26  8:46     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 09/12] vhost: vhost net support Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 19:04   ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-02-26 14:32     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-26 14:38       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-26 14:54         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 19:44   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-26 14:49     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-26 15:18       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-27 19:38         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-28  1:59           ` Paul Brook
2010-02-28 10:15             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-28 12:45               ` Paul Brook
2010-02-28 14:44                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-28 15:23                   ` Paul Brook
2010-02-28 15:37                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-28 16:02           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 02/12] kvm: add API to set ioeventfd Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 19:19   ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02 17:41     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 04/12] virtio: add notifier support Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 01/12] tap: add interface to get device fd Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 07/12] virtio: move typedef to qemu-common Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 10/12] tap: add vhost/vhostfd options Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 19:47   ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-02-26 14:51     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-26 15:23       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-27 19:44         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-28 16:08           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-28 17:19             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-28 20:57               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-28 21:01                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-28 22:38                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-28 22:39                 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-01 19:27                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-01 21:54                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02  9:57                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-02 14:07                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02 14:33                     ` Paul Brook
2010-03-02 14:39                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02 14:55                         ` Paul Brook
2010-03-02 15:33                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02 15:53                             ` Paul Brook
2010-03-02 15:56                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-02 16:12                               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02 16:21                                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-03-02 16:12                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-03-02 16:56                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02 17:00                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-02 18:00                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-03-02 18:13                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02 22:41                     ` Paul Brook
2010-03-03 14:15                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-03 14:43                         ` Paul Brook [this message]
2010-03-03 16:24                         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 11/12] tap: add API to retrieve vhost net header Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 06/12] virtio: add set_status callback Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 08/12] virtio-pci: fill in notifier support Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 19:30   ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-02-28 20:02     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 03/12] notifier: event notifier implementation Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 19:22   ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-02-28 19:59     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 12/12] virtio-net: vhost net support Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 19:49 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCHv2 00/12] vhost-net: upstream integration Anthony Liguori

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