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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v4 03/10] x86: Extend validity of cpu_is_bsp
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:03:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100304120354.GK16909@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B8F9B11.60804@siemens.com>

On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 12:35:45PM +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 09:23:46AM +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >> Gleb Natapov wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 12:34:22AM +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >>>> Gleb Natapov wrote:
> >>>>> On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 06:17:22PM +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >>>>>> As we hard-wire the BSP to CPU 0 anyway and cpuid_apic_id equals
> >>>>>> cpu_index, cpu_is_bsp can also be based on the latter directly. This
> >>>>>> will help an early user of it: KVM while initializing mp_state.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Signed-off-by: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
> >>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>  hw/pc.c |    3 ++-
> >>>>>>  1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> diff --git a/hw/pc.c b/hw/pc.c
> >>>>>> index b90a79e..58c32ea 100644
> >>>>>> --- a/hw/pc.c
> >>>>>> +++ b/hw/pc.c
> >>>>>> @@ -767,7 +767,8 @@ static void pc_init_ne2k_isa(NICInfo *nd)
> >>>>>>  
> >>>>>>  int cpu_is_bsp(CPUState *env)
> >>>>>>  {
> >>>>>> -    return env->cpuid_apic_id == 0;
> >>>>>> +    /* We hard-wire the BSP to the first CPU. */
> >>>>>> +    return env->cpu_index == 0;
> >>>>>>  }
> >>>>> We should not assume that. The function was written like that
> >>>>> specifically so the code around it will not rely on this assumption.
> >>>>> Now you change that specifically to write code that will do incorrect
> >>>>> assumptions. I don't see the logic here.
> >>>> The logic is that we do not support any other mapping yet - with or
> >>>> without this change. Without it, we complicate the APIC initialization
> >>>> for (so far) no good reason. Once we want to support different BSP
> >>>> assignments, we need to go through the code and rework some parts anyway.
> >>>>
> >>> As far as I remember the only part that was missing was a command line to
> >>> specify apic IDs for each CPU and what CPU is BSP. The code was ready
> >>> otherwise. I's very sad if this was broken by other modifications. But
> >>> changes like that actually pushes us back from our goal. Why not rework
> >>> code so it will work with correct cpu_is_bsp() function instead of
> >>> introducing this hack?
> >> If you can confirm that there is a serious use case behind it, I will
> >> look into this again. But so far, I did not find it.
> >>
> > Firs of all it is correctness issue. We should emulate x86 platform and
> > nothing there says that BSP apic id is zero. Second part of CPU topology
> > information is encoded in apic id. i.e when socket/core/ht topology is
> > used we can't just arbitrary specify apic ids for each logical cpu, we
> > should follow the rules described in SDM. For instance when more then 16
> > CPUs are present AMD advices to start numbering apic ids from 16 and leave
> > first 16 IDs for IOAPICs. And third introduction of this hack shows that
> > something is done wrong in other places of the code. Somewhere
> > initialization order is incorrect.
> 
> Well, it looks like we need to answer two questions: How shall to user
> specify the BSP? And how to reliably map this on QEMU's internal
> cpu_index? Depending on this, apic numbering may or may not be an
> orthogonal issue.
> 
Two good question :) We can extend -cpu command to let as specify base
apic id for each socket. Apic ids of logical cpus are derived from this
base acpi id depending on where in hierarchy the logical cpu resided.
cpu_index thing in QEMU is pretty messy. The way non x86 arches use it
make it hard to cleanup, so this is why I didn't want to rely on it at
all and use acpi id instead. Thinking about it cpu_is_bsp() should
really check BSP bit in apic base register. 


> BTW, do real systems allow to hot plug BSP as well? Or how is the case
> handled when you unplug the BSP and then reboot the box?
> 
Did you mean hot unplug BSP? OS determines what CPU is BSP by checking
BSP bit in APIC base register. My guess is that there is some pin on CPU
which value is mirrored as BSP bit in APIC base register. Board may have
some logic to check what sockets are populated and chose one of them as
BSP by pulling its pin up. But this is only guess.

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-04 12:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-01 17:17 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 00/10] qemu-kvm: Hook cleanups and yet more use of upstream code Jan Kiszka
2010-03-01 17:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 01/10] qemu-kvm: Add KVM_CAP_X86_ROBUST_SINGLESTEP-awareness Jan Kiszka
2010-03-01 17:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 02/10] qemu-kvm: Rework VCPU state writeback API Jan Kiszka
2010-03-01 17:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 03/10] x86: Extend validity of cpu_is_bsp Jan Kiszka
2010-03-03 16:00   ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2010-03-03 23:34     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-03-04  6:47       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-03-04  8:23         ` Jan Kiszka
2010-03-04  8:35           ` Gleb Natapov
2010-03-04 11:35             ` Jan Kiszka
2010-03-04 12:03               ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2010-03-07  6:36                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-03-07 10:48                   ` Jan Kiszka
2010-03-07 13:44                     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-03-07 13:50                       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-03-01 17:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 04/10] qemu-kvm: Clean up mpstate synchronization Jan Kiszka
2010-03-01 17:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 05/10] KVM: x86: Restrict writeback of VCPU state Jan Kiszka
2010-03-01 17:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 06/10] qemu-kvm: Use VCPU event state for reset and vmsave/load Jan Kiszka
2010-03-01 17:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 07/10] qemu-kvm: Cleanup/fix TSC and PV clock writeback Jan Kiszka
2010-03-01 17:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 08/10] qemu-kvm: Clean up KVM's APIC hooks Jan Kiszka
2010-03-01 17:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 09/10] qemu-kvm: Move kvm_set_boot_cpu_id Jan Kiszka
2010-03-01 17:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 10/10] qemu-kvm: Bring qemu_init_vcpu back home Jan Kiszka
2010-03-01 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v4 00/10] qemu-kvm: Hook cleanups and yet more use of upstream code Jan Kiszka
2010-03-01 20:01 ` Marcelo Tosatti

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