From: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 28/50] error: Let converted handlers print in human monitor
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 18:14:22 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100304181422.42bc23ce@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3pr3jn6e5.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org>
On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 22:06:42 +0100
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
> Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com> writes:
>
> > On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:56:49 +0100
> > Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> >> While fully converted handlers are not supposed to print anything when
> >> running in a QMP monitor, they are free to print in a human monitor.
> >
> > I disagree.
> >
> > One of the key decisions behind the new Monitor design is that handlers
> > are part of common code. User printing is output-specific and should not
> > be done by handlers.
> >
> > One of the problems with this layer violation is that the consumer of this
> > data might not be what you have assumed. For example, it has been suggested
> > that we could move the qemu shell out of qemu in the future. In this case,
> > this kind of information _could_ be useful.
>
> How do you intend to solve the problem of printing help then?
Doesn't a shallow conversion takes care of it for now?
> The perfect is the enemy of the good.
>
> > Another important problem is that free printing like this is error-prone
> > as it's not at all clear what could be printed and there's no way to catch
> > mistakes mechanically. Not to mention that this is for sure going to used
> > by those who want to ignore QMP completely.
>
> This paragraph I don't get.
If something that should be available under qmp is printed by using
monitor_printf(), we loose big time.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-04 21:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-04 15:56 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/50] Convert device_add to QObject / QError Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/50] usb: Remove disabled monitor_printf() in usb_read_file() Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/50] savevm: Fix -loadvm to report errors to stderr, not the monitor Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/50] pc: Fix error reporting for -boot once Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/50] pc: Factor common code out of pc_boot_set() and cmos_init() Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/50] tools: Remove unused cur_mon from qemu-tool.c Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/50] monitor: Separate "default monitor" and "current monitor" cleanly Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/50] block: Simplify usb_msd_initfn() test for "can read bdrv key" Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/50] monitor: Factor monitor_set_error() out of qemu_error_internal() Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/50] error: Move qemu_error() & friends from monitor.c to own file Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/50] error: Simplify error sink setup Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/50] error: Move qemu_error & friends into their own header Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/50] error: New error_printf() and error_vprintf() Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/50] error: Don't abuse qemu_error() for non-error in qdev_device_help() Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/50] error: Don't abuse qemu_error() for non-error in qbus_find() Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/50] error: Don't abuse qemu_error() for non-error in scsi_hot_add() Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/50] error: Replace qemu_error() by error_report() Markus Armbruster
2010-03-13 2:34 ` [Qemu-devel] " Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/50] error: Rename qemu_error_new() to qerror_report() Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/50] error: Infrastructure to track locations for error reporting Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 19/50] error: Include the program name in error messages to stderr Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 20/50] error: Track locations in configuration files Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 21/50] QemuOpts: Fix qemu_config_parse() to catch file read errors Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 22/50] error: Track locations on command line Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 23/50] qdev: Fix -device and device_add to handle unsuitable bus gracefully Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 24/50] qdev: Factor qdev_create_from_info() out of qdev_create() Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 25/50] qdev: Hide "no_user" devices from users Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 26/50] qdev: Hide "ptr" properties " Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 27/50] monitor: New monitor_cur_is_qmp() Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 28/50] error: Let converted handlers print in human monitor Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 20:50 ` [Qemu-devel] " Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-04 21:06 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 21:14 ` Luiz Capitulino [this message]
2010-03-05 15:43 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-05 16:43 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-08 13:41 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 29/50] error: Polish human-readable error descriptions Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 30/50] error: New QERR_PROPERTY_NOT_FOUND Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 31/50] error: New QERR_PROPERTY_VALUE_BAD Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 32/50] qdev: convert setting device properties to QError Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 33/50] qdev: Relax parsing of bus option Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 34/50] error: New QERR_BUS_NOT_FOUND Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 35/50] error: New QERR_DEVICE_MULTIPLE_BUSSES Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 36/50] error: New QERR_DEVICE_NO_BUS Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 37/50] qdev: Convert qbus_find() to QError Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 38/50] error: New error_printf_unless_qmp() Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 39/50] error: New QERR_BAD_BUS_FOR_DEVICE Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 40/50] error: New QERR_BUS_NO_HOTPLUG Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 41/50] error: New QERR_DEVICE_INIT_FAILED Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 42/50] error: New QERR_NO_BUS_FOR_DEVICE Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 43/50] Revert "qdev: Use QError for 'device not found' error" Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 44/50] error: Convert do_device_add() to QError Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 45/50] qemu-option: Functions to convert to/from QDict Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 20:55 ` [Qemu-devel] " Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-04 21:12 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 21:17 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-04 15:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 46/50] qemu-option: Move the implied first name into QemuOptsList Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 47/50] qemu-option: Rename find_list() to qemu_find_opts() & external linkage Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 48/50] monitor: New argument type 'O' Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 49/50] monitor: Use argument type 'O' for device_add Markus Armbruster
2010-03-04 15:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 50/50] monitor: convert do_device_add() to QObject Markus Armbruster
2010-03-16 18:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL v2] Convert device_add to QObject / QError Markus Armbruster
2010-03-17 15:28 ` Anthony Liguori
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