From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Cc: Cam Macdonell <cam@cs.ualberta.ca>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Inter-VM shared memory PCI device
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 01:45:37 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100308014537.GA24024@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201003072254.00040.paul@codesourcery.com>
Paul Brook wrote:
> > Support an inter-vm shared memory device that maps a shared-memory object
> > as a PCI device in the guest. This patch also supports interrupts between
> > guest by communicating over a unix domain socket. This patch applies to
> > the qemu-kvm repository.
>
> No. All new devices should be fully qdev based.
>
> I suspect you've also ignored a load of coherency issues, especially when not
> using KVM. As soon as you have shared memory in more than one host
> thread/process you have to worry about memory barriers.
Yes. Guest-observable behaviour is likely to be quite different on
different hosts, expecially beteen x86 and non-x86 hosts, which is not
good at all for emulation.
Memory barriers performed by the guest would help, but would not
remove the fact that behaviour would vary beteen different host types
if a guest doesn't call them. I.e. you could accidentally have some
guests working fine for years on x86 hosts, which gain subtle
memory corruption as soon as you run them on a different host.
This is acceptable when recompiling code for different architectures,
but it's asking for trouble with binary guest images which aren't
supposed to depend on host architecture.
However, coherence could be made host-type-independent by the host
mapping and unampping pages, so that each page is only mapped into one
guest (or guest CPU) at a time. Just like some clustering filesystems
do to maintain coherence.
-- Jamie
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-08 1:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-05 23:52 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Support adding a file to qemu's ram allocation Cam Macdonell
2010-03-05 23:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Inter-VM shared memory PCI device Cam Macdonell
2010-03-07 22:53 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-08 1:45 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2010-03-08 9:48 ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-08 9:54 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-08 10:57 ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-09 21:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-08 13:04 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-09 19:00 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-08 9:52 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-08 13:03 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-08 13:16 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-09 20:11 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-09 21:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-10 9:25 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-10 17:13 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-10 17:30 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-10 17:41 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-11 6:33 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-11 12:21 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-09 20:12 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-10 0:03 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-10 4:38 ` Cam Macdonell
2010-03-10 9:29 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-10 11:13 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-11 3:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-11 4:37 ` Nick Piggin
2010-03-11 14:38 ` malc
2010-03-08 9:56 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-08 17:57 ` Cam Macdonell
2010-03-09 10:29 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <8286e4ee1003090724m1ef0b571g8b705a24e36e1753@mail.gmail.com>
2010-03-09 15:27 ` [Qemu-devel] " Cam Macdonell
2010-03-09 17:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-09 17:34 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-09 18:34 ` Cam Macdonell
2010-03-10 9:21 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-10 16:36 ` Cam Macdonell
2010-03-11 6:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-09 12:49 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-03-09 13:03 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-09 16:44 ` Cam Macdonell
2010-03-10 14:04 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-03-11 6:50 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-11 12:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-03-11 13:07 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-11 14:32 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-03-08 9:53 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH] Support adding a file to qemu's ram allocation Avi Kivity
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