From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Compile files only once: some planning
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 03:08:44 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100325030844.GD28176@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BAA98CD.4090900@codemonkey.ws>
Anthony Liguori wrote:
> It's a statement of correctness really. Devices should never deal with
> target_phys_addr_t's.
Shouldn't they? On real hardware, 64-bit PCI devices switch to being
32-bit PCI when plugged into a 32-bit motherboard slot.
> The question is, should a pci_addr_t or a sysbus_addr_t be 64 bit or
> should it be 32-bit on 32-bit platforms.
Depends what you want to emulate. It's not an accurate emulation if
all the old PCI devices provide 64-bit BARs; that could conceivably
bite some old OS, which expects NE2000-PCI to be a 32-bit device, for example.
And it's not a repeatable emulation if switching beteen 32-bit and
64-bit hosts means the guest sees a change in the PCI devices. It
should be possible to change hosts with qemu willy nilly with zero
change seen be the guest.
So perhaps the width of pci_addr_t should be a per-device property,
not a host property?
> Honestly, I am extremely sceptical that there would be any
> measurable performance difference.
You may be right, but surely the way to find out is to have a way to
build either, and then compare them. Not have it dictated by the build system.
64-bit ops on 32-bit hosts, especially x86 due to register pressure,
are noticably more expensive than 32-bit ops. The question is whether
they are sparse enough among all the other logic that it doesn't matter.
With a bit of make cleverness it should be quite easy to support a mix
of build-once files and build-few-times files according to the minimal
compile time variations those files depend on - and express those
dependencies is a simple, one-liner way. GNU Make is good for that
sort of thing.
- Jamie
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-25 3:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-23 21:43 [Qemu-devel] Compile files only once: some planning Blue Swirl
2010-03-24 9:17 ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-03-24 17:56 ` Blue Swirl
2010-03-24 19:28 ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-24 22:47 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-24 22:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 3:08 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2010-03-25 2:54 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24 9:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-03-24 11:19 ` Richard Henderson
2010-03-24 14:45 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-03-24 14:56 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-24 16:18 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-03-24 17:27 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-24 17:07 ` Richard Henderson
2010-03-24 20:12 ` Richard Henderson
2010-03-24 18:00 ` Blue Swirl
2010-03-24 19:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-24 20:05 ` Blue Swirl
2010-03-24 20:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-24 20:24 ` Blue Swirl
2010-03-24 20:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-24 20:32 ` Blue Swirl
2010-03-24 20:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 21:00 ` Aurelien Jarno
2010-03-24 22:33 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-24 22:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 23:05 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-24 23:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 8:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-25 12:01 ` Paul Brook
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