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From: Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
To: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Cc: aliguori@us.ibm.com, Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	qemu list <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 10/15] virtio-serial: Add QMP events for failed port/device add
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 13:33:22 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100327080321.GI7039@amit-x200.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100326145236.6fd1692b@redhat.com>

On (Fri) Mar 26 2010 [14:52:36], Luiz Capitulino wrote:
> > >  My suggestion for the immediate term is to do what we have been doing so
> > > far, ie. call it VIRTIO_SERIAL_ADD. Worst case here is: we add a new way
> > > to group events which requires a new VIRTIO_SERIAL event, in this case we
> > > could emit both, the new VIRTIO_SERIAL and the old VIRTIO_SERIAL_ADD. The
> > > latter would be deprecated too.
> > 
> > I've no problem doing it either way - whatever you prefer is fine.
> > 
> > BTW these are two distinct events already - failure in initialising a
> > device and failure in initialising a port. Do you think these should be
> > separate as well?
> 
>  That depends on what you want clients to know/do about it.
> 
>  Can ports and devices be added and work independently of each other?
> Why is it relevant for a client to know that a _device_ has failed to
> initialize?

I'm not sure what you mean by a client, but let's say libvirt handles
the qemu session. A single device can have multiple ports. If a device
fails to register *in the guest*, all the ports associated with that
device could be hot-unplugged on the host to reduce host resource usage.

If just a single port fails to register *in the guest*, libvirt may just
want to hot-unplug it to free up resources.

So yes, I think both are necessary.

Anyway, I guess the answer is to split both these events.

>  If clients connect to a port and all they need to know is "Sorry, but
> that port won't be available", then you don't even need to have a port/device
> distinction in the event.
> 
>  Also note that events can be improved to include more information later,
> if needed. So, the best approach is to include as less information as
> possible (given that it satisfies current client needs, of course).

Right; that's the reason only the failing port number is given right
now.

> > >  Or, if you can wait I can _try_ to solve this problem next week, although
> > > I have no idea how hard this is going to be.
> > 
> > I think it's cleaner to club everything; but basically I'll go with
> > whatever you say. I've no problem waiting.
> 
>  It's definitely needed to group events some way, we just have to
> find a good way to do it. Having each subsystem doing it its own way
> is not what we want because of protocol consistency and related
> problems.

Yes, that's exactly why I think waiting till you iron it out would help.

		Amit

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-27  8:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-24 14:49 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/15] v3: virtio-serial-bus fixes, new abi for port discovery Amit Shah
2010-03-24 14:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/15] virtio-serial: save/load: Ensure target has enough ports Amit Shah
2010-03-24 14:49   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/15] virtio-serial: save/load: Ensure nr_ports on src and dest are same Amit Shah
2010-03-24 14:49     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/15] virtio-serial: save/load: Ensure we have hot-plugged ports instantiated Amit Shah
2010-03-24 14:49       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/15] virtio-serial: save/load: Send target host connection status if different Amit Shah
2010-03-24 14:49         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/15] virtio-serial: Use control messages to notify guest of new ports Amit Shah
2010-03-24 14:49           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/15] virtio-serial: whitespace: match surrounding code Amit Shah
2010-03-24 14:49             ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/15] virtio-serial: Remove redundant check for 0-sized write request Amit Shah
2010-03-24 14:49               ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/15] virtio-serial: Update copyright year to 2010 Amit Shah
2010-03-24 14:49                 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/15] virtio-serial: Propagate errors in initialising ports / devices in guest Amit Shah
2010-03-24 14:49                   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/15] virtio-serial: Add QMP events for failed port/device add Amit Shah
2010-03-24 14:49                     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/15] virtio-serial: Send out guest data to ports only if port is opened Amit Shah
2010-03-24 14:49                       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/15] iov: Introduce a new file for helpers around iovs, add iov_from_buf() Amit Shah
2010-03-24 14:49                         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/15] iov: Add iov_to_buf and iov_size helpers Amit Shah
2010-03-24 14:49                           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/15] virtio-serial: Handle scatter-gather buffers for control messages Amit Shah
2010-03-24 14:49                             ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/15] virtio-serial: Handle scatter/gather input from the guest Amit Shah
2010-03-30 13:44                             ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 14/15] virtio-serial: Handle scatter-gather buffers for control messages Juan Quintela
2010-03-30 13:47                               ` Amit Shah
2010-03-24 20:34                     ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 10/15] virtio-serial: Add QMP events for failed port/device add Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25  3:47                       ` Amit Shah
2010-03-25 18:34                         ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-26  1:17                           ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-26  2:07                             ` Amit Shah
2010-03-26  4:07                               ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-26  4:56                                 ` Amit Shah
2010-03-26  5:23                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-26 13:49                                     ` Amit Shah
2010-03-26 14:44                                       ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-26 14:57                                         ` Amit Shah
2010-03-28 15:01                                           ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-26 13:05                                   ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-26 13:24                                     ` Amit Shah
2010-03-26  1:57                           ` Amit Shah
2010-03-25 18:55                     ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-26  2:16                       ` Amit Shah
2010-03-26 13:14                         ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-26 13:26                           ` Amit Shah
2010-03-26 14:29                             ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-26 14:43                               ` Amit Shah
2010-03-26 17:52                                 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-27  8:03                                   ` Amit Shah [this message]
2010-03-29 13:34                                     ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-26 16:51                               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26  1:09     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/15] virtio-serial: save/load: Ensure nr_ports on src and dest are same Jamie Lokier
2010-03-26  2:03       ` Amit Shah
2010-03-26  4:08         ` Jamie Lokier

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