From: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] How to lock-up your tap-based VM network
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:03:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201004131403.19402.paul@codesourcery.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BC46169.7020204@siemens.com>
> Paul Brook wrote:
> >> A major reason for this deadlock could likely be removed by shutting
> >> down the tap (if peered) or dropping packets in user space (in case of
> >> vlan) when a NIC is stopped or otherwise shut down. Currently most (if
> >> not all) NIC models seem to signal both "queue full" and "RX disabled"
> >> via !can_receive().
> >
> > No. A disabled device should return true from can_recieve, then discard
> > the packets in its receive callback. Failure to do so is a bug in the
> > device. It looks like the virtio-net device may be buggy.
>
> That's not a virtio-only issue. In fact, we ran into this over pcnet,
> and a quick check of other popular PCI NIC models (except for rtl8139)
> revealed the same picture: They only report can_receive if their
> receiver unit is up and ready (some also include the queue state, but
> that's an "add-on").
If so these are also buggy.
> I think it's clear why: "can_receive" strongly suggests that a suspended
> receiver should make the model return false. If we want to keep this
> handler, it should be refactored to something like "queue_full".
I don't see a need to refactor anything. You just need to fix the devices
that incorrectly return false when their RX engine is disabled.
Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-13 13:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-12 16:43 [Qemu-devel] How to lock-up your tap-based VM network Jan Kiszka
2010-04-12 20:07 ` Paul Brook
2010-04-12 21:49 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-12 23:20 ` Paul Brook
2010-04-13 12:30 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-04-13 13:02 ` Paul Brook
2010-04-13 12:22 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-04-13 12:19 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-04-13 13:03 ` Paul Brook [this message]
2010-04-13 13:15 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-04-13 18:48 ` Blue Swirl
2010-04-13 19:13 ` Blue Swirl
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