From: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: quintela@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, armbru@redhat.com
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 04/22] savevm: do_loadvm(): Always resume the VM
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 12:08:38 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100421120838.4aa8428c@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BCEFD70.70100@redhat.com>
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 15:28:16 +0200
Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com> wrote:
> Am 20.04.2010 23:09, schrieb Luiz Capitulino:
> > do_loadvm(), which implements the 'loadvm' Monitor command, pauses
> > the emulation to load the saved VM, however it will only resume
> > it if the loading succeeds.
> >
> > In other words, if the user issues 'loadvm' and it fails, the
> > end result will be an error message and a paused VM.
> >
> > This seems an undesirable side effect to me because, most of the
> > time, if a Monitor command fails the best thing we can do is to
> > leave the VM as it were before the command was executed.
>
> I completely agree with Juan here, this is broken.
Yeah, it's an RFC. I decided to send it as is because I needed feedback as
this series is a snowball.
> If you could leave the VM as it was before, just like you describe
> above, everything would be okay. But in fact you can't tell where the
> error occurred. You may still have the old state; or you may have loaded
> the snapshot on one disk, but not on the other one; or you may have
> loaded snapshots for all disks, but only half of the devices.
>
> We must not run a machine in such an unknown state. I'd even go further
> and say that after a failed loadvm we must even prevent that a user uses
> the cont command to resume manually.
Maybe 'info status' should have a specific status for this too.
(Assuming we don't want to radically call exit(1)).
> > FIXME: This will try to run a potentially corrupted image, the
> > solution is to split load_vmstate() in two and only keep
> > the VM paused if qemu_loadvm_state() fails.
>
> Your suggestion of having a prepare function that doesn't change any
> state looks fine to me. It could just check if the snapshot is there and
> contains VM state. This should cover all of the trivial cases where
> recovery is really as easy as resuming the old state.
That's exactly what I want to do.
> Another problem that I see is that it's really hard to define what an
> error is. Current code print "Warning: ..." for all non-primary images
> and continues with loading the snapshot. I'm really unsure what the
> right behaviour would be if a snapshot doesn't exist on a secondary
> image (note that this is not the CD-ROM case, these drives are already
> excluded by bdrv_has_snapshot as they are read-only).
Defining the right behavior and deciding what to expose have been
proven very difficult tasks in the QMP world.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-21 15:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-20 21:09 [Qemu-devel] [RFC 00/22]: QMP: Convert savevm/loadvm/delvm Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/22] QMP: Introduce RESUME event Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/22] savevm: Don't check the return of qemu_fopen_bdrv() Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/22] savevm: Introduce delete_snapshot() and use it Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/22] savevm: do_loadvm(): Always resume the VM Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-04-20 21:59 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-21 8:36 ` Juan Quintela
2010-04-21 14:54 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-21 15:39 ` Juan Quintela
2010-04-21 15:42 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-04-22 13:33 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-21 13:28 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-04-21 15:08 ` Luiz Capitulino [this message]
2010-04-21 15:27 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-04-21 15:47 ` Juan Quintela
2010-04-21 15:45 ` Juan Quintela
2010-04-21 17:50 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/22] savevm: load_vmstate(): Return 'ret' on error Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/22] savevm: load_vmstate(): Improve error check Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/22] qemu-error: Introduce get_errno_string() Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-21 8:28 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-04-21 13:38 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-04-21 14:42 ` malc
2010-04-21 15:12 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-21 15:15 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-04-21 15:29 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-21 17:13 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-04-22 13:44 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-05-03 18:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-10 17:50 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-05-11 22:36 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/22] QError: New QERR_SNAPSHOT_NO_DEVICE Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/22] QError: New QERR_SNAPSHOT_DELETE_FAILED Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/22] QError: New QERR_SNAPSHOT_CREATE_FAILED Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/22] QError: New QERR_SNAPSHOT_ACTIVATE_FAILED Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/22] QError: New QERR_STATEVM_SAVE_FAILED Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:31 ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-04-20 22:02 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/22] QError: New QERR_STATEVM_LOAD_FAILED Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/22] QError: New QERR_DEVICE_NO_SNAPSHOT Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/22] QError: New QERR_SNAPSHOT_NOT_FOUND Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/22] savevm: Convert delete_snapshot() to QError Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/22] savevm: delete_snapshot(): Remove unused parameter Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/22] savevm: Convert do_delvm() to QObject, QError Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-21 14:18 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2010-04-22 13:48 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-22 14:31 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 19/22] savevm: Convert do_savevm() to QError Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 20/22] savevm: Convert do_savevm() to QObject Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 21/22] savevm: Convert do_loadvm() to QError Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 22/22] savevm: Convert do_loadvm() to QObject Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-20 21:41 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [RFC 00/22]: QMP: Convert savevm/loadvm/delvm Juan Quintela
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