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From: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
	Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	qemu list <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v7 4/6] char: Add qemu_chr_write_nb() for nonblocking writes
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 15:10:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201005051510.48416.paul@codesourcery.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BE1785B.6010208@codemonkey.ws>

> On 05/05/2010 08:34 AM, Paul Brook wrote:
> >> I really dislike the idea of adding another function for this.  Can you
> >> explain why you need this functionality for virtio-console and why this
> >> functionality isn't needed for everything else?
> > 
> > This functionality should (in principle) be used by all serial port
> > implementations.
> > 
> > Physical serial ports are sufficiently crufty and low-performance that
> > noone actually uses them nowadays.  I expect that the only significant
> > real-world use is for serial consoles, which never send enough data to
> > care that writes stall the whole machine.
> 
> We don't implement control flow in the character driver layer today.
> Different backends use different policies.  Some drop data (like pty)
> while other block (like tcp).

Really? I thought data was only dropped when no client was connected, and that 
there was a user visible option to control this.  Either way, I agree that 
this should be done consistently.
 
> This patch adds optional control flow in a pretty crufty way to *some*
> backends but not all.  This just adds a bunch of complexity that will
> certainly introduce bugs.

I admit I've only really looked at the device emulation side of the interface, 
not the chardev backend implementation.

Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-05 14:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-04 21:39 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 0/6] Amit Shah
2010-05-04 21:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 1/6] virtio-console: Factor out common init between console and generic ports Amit Shah
2010-05-04 21:39   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 2/6] char: Add a QemuChrHandlers struct to initialise chardev handlers Amit Shah
2010-05-04 21:39     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 3/6] char: Let writers know how much data was written in case of errors Amit Shah
2010-05-04 21:39       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 4/6] char: Add qemu_chr_write_nb() for nonblocking writes Amit Shah
2010-05-04 21:39         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 5/6] char: unix/tcp: Add a non-blocking write handler Amit Shah
2010-05-04 21:39           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 6/6] virtio-console: Throttle virtio-serial-bus if we can't consume any more guest data Amit Shah
2010-05-05 13:16         ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v7 4/6] char: Add qemu_chr_write_nb() for nonblocking writes Anthony Liguori
2010-05-05 13:22           ` Amit Shah
2010-05-05 13:34           ` Paul Brook
2010-05-05 13:53             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-05 14:10               ` Paul Brook [this message]
2010-05-05 18:43               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-05-05 18:49                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-05 19:16                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-05-05 19:33                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-06  7:11                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-05-05 18:40           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-05-05 18:48             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-05 13:15       ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v7 3/6] char: Let writers know how much data was written in case of errors Anthony Liguori
2010-05-05 13:23         ` Amit Shah
2010-05-05 13:54           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-05 14:06             ` Amit Shah
2010-05-05 13:13     ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v7 2/6] char: Add a QemuChrHandlers struct to initialise chardev handlers Anthony Liguori
2010-05-05 13:25       ` Amit Shah
2010-05-05 13:59         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-04 21:41 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v7 0/6] char: non-blocking writes, virtio-console flow control Amit Shah
2010-05-05 11:18 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v7 0/6] Juan Quintela

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