From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
Cc: blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 07/15] qemu_irq: Add IRQ handlers with delivery feedback
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 09:40:59 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100525064059.GQ22163@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BFB6EAA.40803@web.de>
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 08:31:06AM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 10:13:40PM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >> From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
> >>
> >> This allows to communicate potential IRQ coalescing during delivery from
> >> the sink back to the source. Targets that support IRQ coalescing
> >> workarounds need to register handlers that return the appropriate
> >> QEMU_IRQ_* code, and they have to propergate the code across all IRQ
> >> redirections. If the IRQ source receives a QEMU_IRQ_COALESCED, it can
> >> apply its workaround. If multiple sinks exist, the source may only
> >> consider an IRQ coalesced if all other sinks either report
> >> QEMU_IRQ_COALESCED as well or QEMU_IRQ_MASKED.
> >>
> > Well, almost two years passed since this approach was proposed first
> > time[1] ;). Back then it generated bunch of nonsensical comments about
> > real hardware not working this way, so the hack that we have now was
> > introduce to overcome this resistance. I hope enough time passed for
> > people to gain some sense and the approach will be adopted this time.
> > Really this should have been done two year ago.
> >
> > [1] http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2008-06/msg00757.html
>
> Yeah, I somehow had a vague feeling that there must have been an earlier
> attempt. I think my approach could be a slightly easier to accept as it
> does not require converting all platforms, but this can happen on demand
> (or not at all).
I proposed that too at some point (to lazy to look for it in archives
and it was in words not patch). But since resistance to that approach
from the beginning was baseless no sane arguments or compromises would
help at that point.
> Moreover, I think that the third return state,
> QEMU_IRQ_MASKED, is important for correct handling of multiple IRQ sinks.
My patch had that too: <0 = coalesced, 0 = masked, >0=delivered
>
> However, as I would see it now, we just have two options long term:
> - drop IRQ coalescing workarounds
> - properly support them via qemu_irq
>
> The current hack cannot stay. E.g., it does not scale because it depends
> on a global variable of the APIC. So we would never able to protect the
> APICs with individual locks.
>
Agree, and that was well understood at the time the hack was introduced.
But we can't just drop RTC IRQ reinjectoin. It would be crippling of qemu.
So we have only _one_ option:
- properly support them via qemu_irq
--
Gleb.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-25 6:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-24 20:13 [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 00/15] HPET cleanups, fixes, enhancements Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 01/15] hpet: Catch out-of-bounds timer access Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:34 ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-05-24 20:36 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:50 ` Juan Quintela
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 02/15] hpet: Coding style cleanups and some refactorings Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:37 ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 03/15] hpet: Silence warning on write to running main counter Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 04/15] hpet: Move static timer field initialization Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 05/15] hpet: Convert to qdev Jan Kiszka
2010-05-25 9:37 ` Paul Brook
2010-05-25 10:14 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 06/15] hpet: Start/stop timer when HPET_TN_ENABLE is modified Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 07/15] qemu_irq: Add IRQ handlers with delivery feedback Jan Kiszka
2010-05-25 6:07 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-25 6:31 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-25 6:40 ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2010-05-25 6:54 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-25 19:09 ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2010-05-25 20:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 21:44 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-26 8:08 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-26 20:14 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-27 5:42 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-26 19:55 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-26 20:09 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-26 20:35 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-26 22:35 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-26 23:26 ` Paul Brook
2010-05-27 17:56 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-27 18:31 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-27 18:53 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-27 19:08 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-27 19:19 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-27 22:19 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-28 19:00 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-30 12:00 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-27 22:21 ` Paul Brook
2010-05-28 19:10 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-27 22:21 ` Paul Brook
2010-05-27 6:13 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-27 18:37 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-28 7:31 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-28 20:06 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-28 20:47 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-29 7:58 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-29 9:35 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-29 9:45 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-29 10:04 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-29 10:16 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-29 10:26 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-29 10:38 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-29 14:46 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-29 16:13 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-29 16:37 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-29 21:21 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-30 6:02 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-30 12:10 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-30 12:24 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-30 12:58 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-31 7:46 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-30 12:33 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-30 12:56 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-30 13:49 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-30 16:54 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-30 19:37 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-30 20:07 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-30 20:21 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-31 5:19 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-01 18:00 ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-01 18:30 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-02 19:05 ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-03 6:23 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-03 6:34 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-03 6:59 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-03 7:03 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-03 7:06 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-04 19:05 ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-05 0:04 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-05 7:20 ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-05 8:27 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-05 9:23 ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-05 12:14 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06 7:15 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-06 7:39 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06 7:49 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-06 8:07 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06 9:23 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-06 10:10 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06 10:27 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-06 7:39 ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-06 8:07 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-30 13:22 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-29 9:15 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-29 9:36 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-29 14:38 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-29 16:03 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-29 16:32 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-29 20:52 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-30 5:41 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-30 11:41 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-30 11:52 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-30 12:05 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-27 5:58 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-26 19:49 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 08/15] x86: Refactor RTC IRQ coalescing workaround Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 09/15] hpet/rtc: Rework RTC IRQ replacement by HPET Jan Kiszka
2010-05-25 9:29 ` Paul Brook
2010-05-25 10:23 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-25 11:05 ` Paul Brook
2010-05-25 11:19 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-25 11:23 ` Paul Brook
2010-05-25 11:26 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-25 12:03 ` Paul Brook
2010-05-25 12:39 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 10/15] hpet: Drop static state Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 11/15] hpet: Add support for level-triggered interrupts Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 12/15] vmstate: Add VMSTATE_STRUCT_VARRAY_UINT8 Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 13/15] hpet: Make number of timers configurable Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 14/15] hpet: Add MSI support Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 15/15] monitor/QMP: Drop info hpet / query-hpet Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 22:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 00/15] HPET cleanups, fixes, enhancements Anthony Liguori
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