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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>
Cc: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [RFT][PATCH 07/15] qemu_irq: Add IRQ handlers with delivery feedback
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 19:37:09 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100529163709.GJ3604@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimUAq6yOB5a3ryl5jTUeYU3Uzl6bLVE0YCrFRg3@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 04:13:22PM +0000, Blue Swirl wrote:
> On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 09:35:30AM +0000, Blue Swirl wrote:
> >> > I still don't see how the alternative is supposed to simplify our life
> >> > or improve the efficiency of the de-coalescing workaround. It's rather
> >> > problematic like Gleb pointed out: The de-coalescing logic needs to be
> >> > informed about periodicity changes that can only be delivered along
> >> > IRQs. So what to do with the backlog when the timer is stopped?
> >>
> >> What happens with the current design? Gleb only mentioned the
> >> frequency change, I thought that was not so big problem. But I don't
> >> think this case should be allowed happen at all, it can't exist on
> >> real HW.
> >>
> > Hm, why it can't exist on real HW? Do simple exercise. Run WindowsXP
> > inside QEMU, connect with gdb to QEMU process and check what frequency
> > RTC configured with (hint: it will be 64Hz), now run video inside the
> > guest and check frequency again (hint: it will be 1Khz).
> 
> You missed the key word 'stopped'. If the timer is really stopped, no
> IRQs should ever come out afterwards, just like on real HW. For the
> emulation, this means loss of ticks which should have been delivered
> before the change.
> 
I haven't missed it. I describe to you reality of the situation. You want
to change reality to be more close to what you want it to be by adding
words to my description. Please just go write code, experiment, debug
and _then_ come here with design.

> But what if the guest changed the frequency very often, and between
> changes used zero value, like 64Hz -> 0Hz -> 128Hz -> 0Hz -> 64Hz?
Too bad, the world is not perfect.

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-29 16:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-24 20:13 [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 00/15] HPET cleanups, fixes, enhancements Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 01/15] hpet: Catch out-of-bounds timer access Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:34   ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-05-24 20:36     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:50       ` Juan Quintela
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 02/15] hpet: Coding style cleanups and some refactorings Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:37   ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 03/15] hpet: Silence warning on write to running main counter Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 04/15] hpet: Move static timer field initialization Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 05/15] hpet: Convert to qdev Jan Kiszka
2010-05-25  9:37   ` Paul Brook
2010-05-25 10:14     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 06/15] hpet: Start/stop timer when HPET_TN_ENABLE is modified Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 07/15] qemu_irq: Add IRQ handlers with delivery feedback Jan Kiszka
2010-05-25  6:07   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-25  6:31     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-25  6:40       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-25  6:54         ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-25 19:09   ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2010-05-25 20:16     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 21:44       ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-26  8:08         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-26 20:14           ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-27  5:42             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-26 19:55         ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-26 20:09           ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-26 20:35             ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-26 22:35               ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-26 23:26               ` Paul Brook
2010-05-27 17:56                 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-27 18:31                   ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-27 18:53                     ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-27 19:08                       ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-27 19:19                         ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-27 22:19                           ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-28 19:00                             ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-30 12:00                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-27 22:21                           ` Paul Brook
2010-05-28 19:10                             ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-27 22:21                   ` Paul Brook
2010-05-27  6:13               ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-27 18:37                 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-28  7:31                   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-28 20:06                     ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-28 20:47                       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-29  7:58                         ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-29  9:35                           ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-29  9:45                             ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-29 10:04                               ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-29 10:16                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-29 10:26                                   ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-29 10:38                                     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-29 14:46                             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-29 16:13                               ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-29 16:37                                 ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2010-05-29 21:21                                   ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-30  6:02                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-30 12:10                                       ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-30 12:24                                         ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-30 12:58                                           ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-31  7:46                                             ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-30 12:33                                         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-30 12:56                                           ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-30 13:49                                             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-30 16:54                                               ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-30 19:37                                               ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-30 20:07                                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-30 20:21                                                   ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-31  5:19                                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-01 18:00                                                       ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-01 18:30                                                         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-02 19:05                                                           ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-03  6:23                                                             ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-03  6:34                                                               ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-03  6:59                                                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-03  7:03                                                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-03  7:06                                                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-04 19:05                                                                       ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-05  0:04                                                                         ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-05  7:20                                                                           ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-05  8:27                                                                             ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-05  9:23                                                                               ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-05 12:14                                                                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06  7:15                                                                           ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-06  7:39                                                                             ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06  7:49                                                                               ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-06  8:07                                                                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06  9:23                                                                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-06 10:10                                                                                     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06 10:27                                                                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-06  7:39                                                                             ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-06  8:07                                                                               ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-30 13:22                                           ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-29  9:15                         ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-29  9:36                           ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-29 14:38                           ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-29 16:03                             ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-29 16:32                               ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-29 20:52                                 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-30  5:41                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-30 11:41                                     ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-30 11:52                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-30 12:05                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-27  5:58             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-26 19:49       ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 08/15] x86: Refactor RTC IRQ coalescing workaround Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 09/15] hpet/rtc: Rework RTC IRQ replacement by HPET Jan Kiszka
2010-05-25  9:29   ` Paul Brook
2010-05-25 10:23     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-25 11:05       ` Paul Brook
2010-05-25 11:19         ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-25 11:23           ` Paul Brook
2010-05-25 11:26             ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-25 12:03               ` Paul Brook
2010-05-25 12:39                 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 10/15] hpet: Drop static state Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 11/15] hpet: Add support for level-triggered interrupts Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 12/15] vmstate: Add VMSTATE_STRUCT_VARRAY_UINT8 Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 13/15] hpet: Make number of timers configurable Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 14/15] hpet: Add MSI support Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 15/15] monitor/QMP: Drop info hpet / query-hpet Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 22:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 00/15] HPET cleanups, fixes, enhancements Anthony Liguori

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