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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>
Cc: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [RFT][PATCH 07/15] qemu_irq: Add IRQ handlers with delivery feedback
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:07:25 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100606080725.GE2337@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimA8d9f-UBM7Z60wUHfK6rPtYmivjaazA-ON4qI@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 07:39:49AM +0000, Blue Swirl wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 02:04:01AM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >> > I'd like to also support EOI handling. When the guest clears the
> >> > interrupt condtion, the EOI callback would be called. This could occur
> >> > much later than the IRQ delivery time. I'm not sure if we need the
> >> > result code in that case.
> >> >
> >> > If any intermediate device (IOAPIC?) needs to be informed about either
> >> > delivery or EOI also, it could create a proxy message with its
> >> > callbacks in place. But we need then a separate opaque field (in
> >> > addition to payload) to store the original message.
> >> >
> >> > struct IRQMsg {
> >> >  DeviceState *src;
> >> >  void (*delivery_cb)(IRQMsg *msg, int result);
> >> >  void (*eoi_cb)(IRQMsg *msg, int result);
> >> >  void *src_opaque;
> >> >  void *payload;
> >> > };
> >>
> >> Extending the lifetime of IRQMsg objects beyond the delivery call stack
> >> means qemu_malloc/free for every delivery. I think it takes a _very_
> >> appealing reason to justify this. But so far I do not see any use case
> >> for eio_cb at all.
> >>
> > I dislike use of eoi for reinfecting missing interrupts since
> > it eliminates use of internal PIC/APIC queue of not yet delivered
> > interrupts. PIC and APIC has internal queue that can handle two elements:
> > one is delivered, but not yet acked interrupt in isr and another is
> > pending interrupt in irr. Using eoi callback (or ack notifier as it's
> > called inside kernel) interrupt will be considered coalesced even if irr
> > is cleared, but no ack was received for previously delivered interrupt.
> > But ack notifiers actually has another use: device assignment. There is
> > a plan to move device assignment from kernel to userspace and for that
> > ack notifiers will have to be extended to userspace too. If so we can
> > use them to do irq decoalescing as well. I doubt they should be part
> > of IRQMsg though. Why not do what kernel does: have globally registered
> > notifier based on irqchip/pin.
> 
> Because translation at IOAPIC may be lossy, IRQs from many devices
> pointing to the same vector? With IRQMsg you know where a specific
> message came from. The situation is different inside the kernel: it
> manages both translation and registration, whereas in QEMU we could
> only control registration.
Configuring IOAPIC like that is against x86 architecture. OS will not be
able to map from interrupt vector back to device.

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-06  8:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-24 20:13 [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 00/15] HPET cleanups, fixes, enhancements Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 01/15] hpet: Catch out-of-bounds timer access Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:34   ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-05-24 20:36     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:50       ` Juan Quintela
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 02/15] hpet: Coding style cleanups and some refactorings Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:37   ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 03/15] hpet: Silence warning on write to running main counter Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 04/15] hpet: Move static timer field initialization Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 05/15] hpet: Convert to qdev Jan Kiszka
2010-05-25  9:37   ` Paul Brook
2010-05-25 10:14     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 06/15] hpet: Start/stop timer when HPET_TN_ENABLE is modified Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 07/15] qemu_irq: Add IRQ handlers with delivery feedback Jan Kiszka
2010-05-25  6:07   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-25  6:31     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-25  6:40       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-25  6:54         ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-25 19:09   ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2010-05-25 20:16     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 21:44       ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-26  8:08         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-26 20:14           ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-27  5:42             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-26 19:55         ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-26 20:09           ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-26 20:35             ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-26 22:35               ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-26 23:26               ` Paul Brook
2010-05-27 17:56                 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-27 18:31                   ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-27 18:53                     ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-27 19:08                       ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-27 19:19                         ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-27 22:19                           ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-28 19:00                             ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-30 12:00                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-27 22:21                           ` Paul Brook
2010-05-28 19:10                             ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-27 22:21                   ` Paul Brook
2010-05-27  6:13               ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-27 18:37                 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-28  7:31                   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-28 20:06                     ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-28 20:47                       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-29  7:58                         ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-29  9:35                           ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-29  9:45                             ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-29 10:04                               ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-29 10:16                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-29 10:26                                   ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-29 10:38                                     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-29 14:46                             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-29 16:13                               ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-29 16:37                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-29 21:21                                   ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-30  6:02                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-30 12:10                                       ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-30 12:24                                         ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-30 12:58                                           ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-31  7:46                                             ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-30 12:33                                         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-30 12:56                                           ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-30 13:49                                             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-30 16:54                                               ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-30 19:37                                               ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-30 20:07                                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-30 20:21                                                   ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-31  5:19                                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-01 18:00                                                       ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-01 18:30                                                         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-02 19:05                                                           ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-03  6:23                                                             ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-03  6:34                                                               ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-03  6:59                                                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-03  7:03                                                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-03  7:06                                                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-04 19:05                                                                       ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-05  0:04                                                                         ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-05  7:20                                                                           ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-05  8:27                                                                             ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-05  9:23                                                                               ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-05 12:14                                                                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06  7:15                                                                           ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-06  7:39                                                                             ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06  7:49                                                                               ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-06  8:07                                                                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06  9:23                                                                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-06 10:10                                                                                     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06 10:27                                                                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-06  7:39                                                                             ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-06  8:07                                                                               ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2010-05-30 13:22                                           ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-29  9:15                         ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-29  9:36                           ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-29 14:38                           ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-29 16:03                             ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-29 16:32                               ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-29 20:52                                 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-30  5:41                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-30 11:41                                     ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-30 11:52                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-30 12:05                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-27  5:58             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-26 19:49       ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 08/15] x86: Refactor RTC IRQ coalescing workaround Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 09/15] hpet/rtc: Rework RTC IRQ replacement by HPET Jan Kiszka
2010-05-25  9:29   ` Paul Brook
2010-05-25 10:23     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-25 11:05       ` Paul Brook
2010-05-25 11:19         ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-25 11:23           ` Paul Brook
2010-05-25 11:26             ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-25 12:03               ` Paul Brook
2010-05-25 12:39                 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 10/15] hpet: Drop static state Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 11/15] hpet: Add support for level-triggered interrupts Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 12/15] vmstate: Add VMSTATE_STRUCT_VARRAY_UINT8 Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 13/15] hpet: Make number of timers configurable Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 14/15] hpet: Add MSI support Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 15/15] monitor/QMP: Drop info hpet / query-hpet Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 22:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 00/15] HPET cleanups, fixes, enhancements Anthony Liguori

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