From: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
To: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>
Cc: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/16] Enable message delivery via IRQs
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 15:15:17 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201006121515.17695.paul@codesourcery.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilFBBEUj30f2E8oyDW3ij5iLUTzfHNBZtb-fOxI@mail.gmail.com>
> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com> wrote:
> >> This patch allows to optionally attach a message to an IRQ event. The
> >> message can contain a payload reference and a callback that the IRQ
> >> handler may invoke to report the delivery result. The former can be used
> >> to model message signaling interrupts, the latter to cleanly implement
> >> IRQ de-coalescing logics.
> >
> > I don't like this. qemu_irq is a level triggered interface. Redundant
> > calls to qemu_set_irq should (in principle) be a no-op. If you want
> > message passing then IMO you should be using something else.
>
> Keeping the optional message and qemu_irq together means that we can
> reuse the existing IRQ subsystem. I'd guess something more separated
> would need duplicate allocation and delivery support and maybe even
> SysBus etc. would need lots of work to support a new class of IRQs.
How do you propose message passing is handled when you have nested multi-layer
interrupt trees? How long is the message data valid for? Who owns it? How is a
receiver meant to know for format of the message being delivered, and who it's
intended for?
IMO message triggered systems are fundamentally different to level states.
qemu_irq represents a level state, and I'd really like for it to stay that
way.
If we need/want a generic message passing interface, then that's a different
problem, and needs to be done in such a way that the devices always agree on
the type of message being passed.
TBH I preferred the original system whereby the source can query the state of
the sink (i.e "are you ignoring this line?"). Note that conceptually this
should be *querying* state, not responding to an event.
Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-06-12 14:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-06-06 8:10 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/16] HPET cleanups, fixes, enhancements Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06 8:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/16] hpet: Catch out-of-bounds timer access Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06 8:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/16] hpet: Coding style cleanups and some refactorings Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06 8:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/16] hpet: Silence warning on write to running main counter Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06 8:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/16] hpet: Move static timer field initialization Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06 8:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/16] hpet: Convert to qdev Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06 8:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/16] hpet: Start/stop timer when HPET_TN_ENABLE is modified Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06 8:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/16] monitor/QMP: Drop info hpet / query-hpet Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06 8:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/16] Pass IRQ object on handler invocation Jan Kiszka
2010-06-12 10:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 " Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06 8:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/16] Enable message delivery via IRQs Jan Kiszka
2010-06-12 12:21 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-12 12:32 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-12 13:44 ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-12 14:15 ` Paul Brook [this message]
2010-06-12 14:35 ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-12 15:58 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-12 19:33 ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-12 20:15 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-12 20:32 ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-13 6:47 ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-13 15:49 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-13 18:17 ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-13 18:39 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-13 18:54 ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-13 19:38 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-13 16:34 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-13 18:04 ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-14 5:40 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-06 8:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/16] x86: Refactor RTC IRQ coalescing workaround Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06 8:49 ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2010-06-06 9:06 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06 8:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/16] hpet/rtc: Rework RTC IRQ replacement by HPET Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06 8:53 ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2010-06-06 9:09 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06 8:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/16] hpet: Drop static state Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06 8:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/16] hpet: Add support for level-triggered interrupts Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06 8:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/16] vmstate: Add VMSTATE_STRUCT_VARRAY_UINT8 Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06 8:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/16] hpet: Make number of timers configurable Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06 8:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/16] hpet: Add MSI support Jan Kiszka
2010-06-11 21:31 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-12 10:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 " Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06 8:56 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 00/16] HPET cleanups, fixes, enhancements Blue Swirl
2010-06-06 9:12 ` Jan Kiszka
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