From: Glauber Costa <glommer@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, avi@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] stop cpus before forking.
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 17:05:59 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100614200559.GE19104@mothafucka.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C1689F7.4040004@codemonkey.ws>
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 02:58:47PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 06/14/2010 02:42 PM, Glauber Costa wrote:
> >On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 02:33:00PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> >>On 06/14/2010 02:27 PM, Glauber Costa wrote:
> >>>This patch fixes a bug that happens with kvm, irqchip-in-kernel,
> >>>while adding a netdev. Despite the situations of reproduction being
> >>>specific to kvm, I believe this fix is pretty generic, and fits here.
> >>>Specially if we ever want to have our own irqchip in kernel too.
> >>>
> >>>The problem happens after the fork system call, and although it is not
> >>>100 % reproduceable, happens pretty often. After fork, the memory where
> >>>the apic is mapped is present in both processes. It ends up confusing
> >>>the vcpus somewhere in the irq<-> ack path, and qemu hangs, with no
> >>>irqs being delivered at all from that point on.
> >>>
> >>>Making sure the vcpus are stopped before forking makes the problem go
> >>>away. Besides, this is a pretty unfrequent operation, which already hangs
> >>>the io-thread for a while. So it should not hurt performance.
> >>>
> >>>Signed-off-by: Glauber Costa<glommer@redhat.com>
> >>This doesn't make very much sense to me but smells like a kernel bug to me.
> >My interpretation is that by doing that, we make sure no in-flight
> >requests are happening. Actually, a sleep(x), with x sufficiently big
> >is enough to make this problem go away, but that is too hacky.
>
> vm_stop() is probably just acting a glorified sleep() since it has
> to wait for each thread to stop.
>
> >I do agree that this is most likely a kernel bug. But as with any other
> >kernel bugs, I believe this is a easy workaround to have things working
> >even in older kernels until we fix it.
>
> If we don't know what the bug is, then we do not know whether this
> is a work around. Rather, this change happens to make the bug more
> difficult to reproduce with your test case.
>
> >>Even if it isn't, I can't rationalize why stopping the vm like this
> >>is enough to fix such a problem. Is the problem that the KVM VCPU
> >>threads get duplicated while potentially running or something like
> >>that?
> >I doubt fork is duplicating the vcpu threads. More than that, this
> >bug does not happen with userspace irqchip.
> >So I believe that either irq request or the ack itself is reaching the
> >wrong process, forever stalling the apic.
>
> That sounds more like a signal delivery issue. It's not obvious to
> me that we're doing the wrong thing with signal mask though.
>
> If it's a signal mask related issue, then vm_stop isn't a proper fix
> as there would be still be a race.
I do can investigate it further, but I doubt it is signal-delivery related.
I spent the first days believing it was, but now, I believe it is much
more likely to be apic-related. We don't need to wait for the child to exit for
this bug to happen, so SIGCHLD is never raised. And with in-kernel irqchip,
we don't deliver signals during normal vcpu execution.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-06-14 20:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-06-14 19:27 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] stop cpus before forking Glauber Costa
2010-06-14 19:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-14 19:42 ` Glauber Costa
2010-06-14 19:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-14 20:05 ` Glauber Costa [this message]
2010-06-16 16:57 ` Glauber Costa
2010-06-15 6:14 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-06-15 7:36 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15 7:35 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15 7:33 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-16 16:58 ` Glauber Costa
2010-06-22 12:18 ` Avi Kivity
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